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Patiod

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32. Every other country in the civilized world has done it

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 09:05 AM

Jul 2012

When there's a massacre, they put measures into place that will decrease the likelihood of another mass shooting happening again.

But we can't do the same thing, because what people interpret as their "2nd Amendment rights" (to a well-regulated militia?) trump everyone else's right to go into public without being shot.

So we'll just go through the same cycle next time, ignore how the rest of the (saner) world deals with guns, and say "this is America, we're willing to deal with shootings daily and massacres occasionally so that everyone can carry whatever weapon they want anywhere. It's the price of 'freedom' "

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The next massacre - A tragedy we will not try to avert - By Eugene Robinson [View all] onehandle Jul 2012 OP

exactly DrDan Jul 2012 #1

GOP Tactics for Preventing the Next Massacre alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #2

Don't forget, if you make the decision to be there justiceischeap Jul 2012 #3

And this is different than the Democratic tactics bread_and_roses Jul 2012 #4

Won't republicans argue for tax cuts for the rich? sadbear Jul 2012 #15

"If you're there, make sure you're at least as heavily armed as the perpetrator." bullwinkle428 Jul 2012 #25

Robinson gets it right again. Hoyt Jul 2012 #5

It's as if we're afraid to go after the real criminals. snappyturtle Jul 2012 #6

..."we can't or won't pre-emptively profile potential mass murderers." badtoworse Jul 2012 #7

The guy did buy six thousand rounds of ammo among other sundry purchases.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #8

Lots of people own that much ammo... badtoworse Jul 2012 #9

How about creating a data base that links gun ownership snappyturtle Jul 2012 #12

I doubt it would provide useful information badtoworse Jul 2012 #17

That's not unusual permatex Jul 2012 #33

I would suggest a public campaign that teaches regular citizens snappyturtle Jul 2012 #10

Then what? badtoworse Jul 2012 #13

Oh I'm not placing this on the gun dealer as they obviously have snappyturtle Jul 2012 #18

What could law enforcement have done? badtoworse Jul 2012 #19

LOL Law enforcement can all ready do that! They beat the hell out of protestors snappyturtle Jul 2012 #22

Rightly or wrongly, the police will argue that the protesters were breaking the law. badtoworse Jul 2012 #23

I hear you....it's a vicious circle, I know. I'm not so sure that police snappyturtle Jul 2012 #39

Tracking devices on weapons. Blanks Jul 2012 #11

Lot's of people have concealed carry permits and legally do so badtoworse Jul 2012 #14

The tracking 'entity' would have it in their database. Blanks Jul 2012 #24

You probably should, but there is likely a wall of "prior art" built up around the idea. badtoworse Jul 2012 #29

Those GPS receivers only work in one direction. Clames Jul 2012 #30

Right... Blanks Jul 2012 #52

Every other country in the civilized world has done it Patiod Jul 2012 #32

So how do they do it? badtoworse Jul 2012 #34

Police permitting and psychological reviews. ellisonz Jul 2012 #51

Done what? Put GPS in guns? Clames Jul 2012 #61

He's absolutely correct: We have no right to be shocked at this; LeftinOH Jul 2012 #16

Don't deal with societal problems and guns, but rather.. ananda Jul 2012 #20

I think we've grown past bans on unwarranted search and seizure and the assumption of innocence 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #21

Think of all the jobs that would create. eom Blanks Jul 2012 #26

It would single-handily revitalize the struggling Jackboot industry 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #27

...and who hasn't worried about the rampant Jackboot layoffs? Blanks Jul 2012 #56

Jackboot industry layoffs have become so common many people shorten it 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #57

A good bit of your fantasy is actual reality.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #35

So let's make it worse! 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36

Other than actually sticking something up your ass how can it get worse? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #38

Well for starters 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #40

There's a huge push to drug test "welfare recipients".. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #42

"How do you know for sure what the vials of blood they draw at the doctor are tested for?" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #43

I've had some personal experience of my private medical information being misused.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

machine-gun style, semi-automatic weapons should be banned, period. magical thyme Jul 2012 #28

Do some research before you post this nonsense badtoworse Jul 2012 #31

many millions of gun owners? how many million, exactly? magical thyme Jul 2012 #46

Enough millions that when the AWB was passed in 1994, they voted for Republicans... badtoworse Jul 2012 #47

so you are saying that all gun owners voted republican over that issue, magical thyme Jul 2012 #50

Recent poll has 47 percent of Americans armed. 40 percent of Dems armed. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #62

I bought this last week permatex Jul 2012 #37

You can stop beating that dead horse permatex Jul 2012 #41

and SCOTUS voted in favor of Citizens United magical thyme Jul 2012 #48

Have any expressed regrets over Heller or McDonald? badtoworse Jul 2012 #49

I don't know magical thyme Jul 2012 #55

LOL. I had a similar experience with a condo ('87 purchase) and numerous stocks. badtoworse Jul 2012 #59

I'm betting you haven't actually read Heller v. DC. ellisonz Jul 2012 #54

And, once again, you would be wrong. permatex Jul 2012 #60

Yoo-Essssay..Yoo-Esssay.. We're Number 1 SoCalDem Jul 2012 #45

In 2009 Sodini walked into a fitness center and shot 13 people, killing 4, including himself.. left coaster Jul 2012 #53

Damn that "well regulated militia". Gregorian Jul 2012 #58

Rec'd treestar Jul 2012 #63