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1monster

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25. In other words, the process to get rid of the people involved was already done BEFORE

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 10:27 AM

Jul 2012

NCAA decided to punish the innocents who were not involved.

This will not stop anything like it happening again. If Joe Paterno or any of the others involved in the "look the other way club" had turned Sandusky in, then the program would not have been penalized. They were not protecting Penn State Football, they were protecting a criminal friend and coworker and perhaps they just didn't want to get involved.

It could happen again, anywhere, and have nothing to do with college football programs, however big or small that college football program or other entity might be.

The NCAA sanctions are not to prevent such a thing happening again. It is an effort on their part to seem revelent and effective.

I've no axe to grind here. I don't follow sports, pro or college. It bores me. But the NCAA always seems to come in after everything is done and all the perps are gone to pile crap on those who are trying to clean up the mess made by others.

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After interviews, the penalty the fans are maddest about is [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 OP

that says a lot when the issue was not the $60M DrDan Jul 2012 #1

Nope Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #2

I thought it could not impact other sports - wouldn't taking it from the reserve fund do that? DrDan Jul 2012 #3

Difference between the slush fund and direct budget allocations alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #5

Of course, we've seen that all before. sofa king Jul 2012 #9

I don't know about that alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #15

I think you are right. That is exactly what will happen. CTyankee Jul 2012 #17

PSU is going to drop anyways in USN&WR rankings. Chan790 Jul 2012 #28

I don't know what exact fund it is, but Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #7

They can make up the $60 mil faster than you think... Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #33

they should dismantle/close the football program datasuspect Jul 2012 #4

Why? LynneSin Jul 2012 #43

The players are not being punished. The NCAA is allowing them to transfer Waltons_Mtn Jul 2012 #52

And remember the players who stay with PSU can still be drafted by the NFL LynneSin Jul 2012 #53

good old fashioned punishment datasuspect Jul 2012 #61

Then you are punishing the wrong people LynneSin Jul 2012 #62

fucking children, in my opinion warrants death, so i'm going easy datasuspect Jul 2012 #63

And Penn State is going to pay for what they did LynneSin Jul 2012 #64

they can never pay for what they did datasuspect Jul 2012 #65

They only have JoePa to blame lunatica Jul 2012 #6

Says a lot about the fans...this penalty really only impacts JoePa's legacy... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #8

Tough shit. HappyMe Jul 2012 #10

TOO BAD! Children were raped and he lifted not one FINGER to stop it. HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #11

In the end, that is the most meaningless penalty of all. Because the games were won 1monster Jul 2012 #12

The other schools do not Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #13

Whatever. It is still meaningless because you can't change the results. You can't undo the 1monster Jul 2012 #18

and yet PSU alum, and the paterno family are pissing and moaning about that fact more than anything. frylock Jul 2012 #54

+1 Our zeal to punish has resulted in innocents being punished along with the guilty. Scuba Jul 2012 #16

Paterno and the others were trying to "protect the program" jeff47 Jul 2012 #20

In other words, the process to get rid of the people involved was already done BEFORE 1monster Jul 2012 #25

so is the punishment meaningless, or are innocent people being punished.. frylock Jul 2012 #56

The part that is meaningless is that mentioned as the most stinging in the OP... 1monster Jul 2012 #67

Actually, it removes Paterno from the record books. jeff47 Jul 2012 #71

There are two targets of any punishment jeff47 Jul 2012 #70

Not just the NCAA, but many posters here. CANDO Jul 2012 #73

No one is being stopped from playing football obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #38

And where did I say that? 1monster Jul 2012 #49

Vacating the wins, to me, was punishment to the fans who defended Paterno. LynneSin Jul 2012 #47

You could be right, but since when does the NCAA hold dominion over the fans' opinions? 1monster Jul 2012 #68

Removing his name from the record books is a good and significant thing in my opinion. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #57

Well as long as they're all focused on the important issue in all of this... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #14

If I was one of the victims I would be trying to add the NCAA to my lawsuit. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #19

What would you sue teh NCAA for??? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #39

Don't fool yourself, college administrations are involved to the top... Sancho Jul 2012 #21

Yes, exactly MadrasT Jul 2012 #23

Agree with you 1monster Jul 2012 #26

Are you kidding? Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #30

maybe so at PSU...the president and AD should have had final authority... Sancho Jul 2012 #69

I'm glad you said this... Chan790 Jul 2012 #31

There will be - the NCAA isn't a law enforcement agency, nor teh courts obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #40

It is really wrong for campus "police" to be the people to report crimes. LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #46

Actually, many if not most campus police departments are regular petronius Jul 2012 #48

They need to lose some of those powers. LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #50

I'd say the same about some municipal PDs - there are horrible petronius Jul 2012 #51

Yeah... because winning is everything... MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #22

Nitwits.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #24

I think this is worse than the death penalty obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #41

Indeed. SMU was a doormat for decades hifiguy Jul 2012 #45

Not being a football fan I'm maddest that the crown now goes to Bowden csziggy Jul 2012 #27

That was in some ways the most satisfying part hifiguy Jul 2012 #29

I wonder if they feel it's a punishment on the players ? Sheepshank Jul 2012 #32

I didn't understand it until a DUer stated that it takes Paterno's name out of the record book HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #34

Well, it is kind of stupid to rewrite history... cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #35

i disagree that he 'legitimately' got those wins ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2012 #36

I have Are Grits Groceries to thank lapislzi Jul 2012 #37

Then why strip Olympic medals and Tour wins??? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #42

I don't think they would strip Olympic medals from someone who's coach didn't report a child rape. cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #44

I couldn't imagine how LA would react if something like this happened to John Wooden's legacy Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #55

paterno isn't fit to carry john wooden's jock frylock Jul 2012 #58

now that's an image! But you are right - I can't imagine John Wooden ignoring child rape Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #59

Seems to me, taking away those wins acknowledges that football is super-important malthaussen Jul 2012 #60

roger maris lives dembotoz Jul 2012 #66

Pity any rape victim ... radicalliberal Jul 2012 #72