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scentopine

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8. I was taught using examples of British holding colonists in prison without trial
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jan 2012

etc. i.e. by example.

I think you can teach words and ask them to memorize, but without historical context and cause and effect, it loses all meaning and significance.

If a law is passed that makes it legal to hold people indefinitely without trial in a military prison, isn't that more than just academic interpretation?

A while back I helped my kid research a unit that asked why we have bill of rights, specifically what policies by British motivated each of first ten amendments.

Part of that involved memorizing the first 10 amendments, however, to show that you understood the material, you had to provide context that demonstrated understanding.

There are recent factual examples that challenge the bill of rights, i.e. the bill of rights is less legal foundation and more political symbolism.

For example - is there really free speech? The US Government says no, there really isn't. Democrats and republicans both agree on this point.

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/21/convicted_for_words_not_deeds/

http://atheism.about.com/b/2003/12/24/free-speech-zones.htm

With civil rights movement from 1920s through 1970s, I don't recall any teacher staying neutral while teaching material about whether a black person should be able to order food in a restaurant or sit in any seat on the bus.

However, maybe things would be different today.

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Not 'alerting' due to an openhearted sense of goodwill for the new year, elleng Jan 2012 #1
How should democrats teach kids that it is OK to torture? -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #2
I thought Obama was against tortue. I saw him on TV opposed to waterboarding. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
Yep and he was against spying on Americans until he was for it scentopine Jan 2012 #16
I disagree, this is exactly how to show another perspective or WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #5
I agree. n/t YvonneCa Jan 2012 #7
as a teacher you present the facts and let the chips fall roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
My students get a basic introduction LWolf Jan 2012 #3
I was taught using examples of British holding colonists in prison without trial scentopine Jan 2012 #8
I try to avoid teaching words and dates to memorize. LWolf Jan 2012 #23
Good answer. AND a good example of why... YvonneCa Jan 2012 #10
Who pissed in your champagne? femmocrat Jan 2012 #6
Obama signing NDAA and whimpering something about "reservations" -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #11
We don't teach Social Studies. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9
Yes. Good point. We have to stay neutral on torture and whether its OK scentopine Jan 2012 #13
There's a curriculum treestar Jan 2012 #12
I teach science. mr715 Jan 2012 #14
I have a problem with "neutral" and cruel/unusual. Neutral is the cancer killing journalism scentopine Jan 2012 #15
I understand your concern. mr715 Jan 2012 #22
The OP has a good point limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17
Tell them the truth Herlong Jan 2012 #19
We teach what is supposed to be, not what it is Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #20
Well said Scentopine. I have often thought over the last few years what my high school Government Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #21
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