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49. Engage first on Fox Propaganda

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:49 AM

Jan 2018

I’ve found it’s most useful, when talking to Trumpkins, to first talk about Fox and propaganda. I tell them that Fox News lies to get votes for billionaires — that the GOP is controlled by billionaire donors who want to destroy the govt so they can cut their own taxes. And that few Americans would vote for that, so the billionaires have bought media (Fox, Limbaugh) to broadcast lies and non profits (Judicial Watch, Citizens U) and think tanks to create the lies. That’s why Fox and Limbaugh don’t agree with real media, why every news org outside the US is laughing us. And I say they can keep watching Fox, but remember it’s all lies to get votes for billionaires.

Then I talk about the political issue of the day.

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My community is blaming the Dems for the shutdown...quick...what can I say? [View all] Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 OP

The Republican control both houses and the White House. RDANGELO Jan 2018 #1

Play the video clip of Trump saying a the President is responsible for a government shutdown. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #58

Mitch admitted they have no idea what Trump would sign - and now he says He wont sign anything? bettyellen Jan 2018 #2

very hard to argue chillfactor Jan 2018 #3

True. But I feel compelled sometimes to state, like, real facts to 'em. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #6

Engage first on Fox Propaganda sharedvalues Jan 2018 #49

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #71

:) Fox News lies - to get votes for billionaires sharedvalues Jan 2018 #72

play the 2013 video of trump brettdale Jan 2018 #4

Here from Mr Scorpio lunasun Jan 2018 #8

Someone else did that. It was good. Shut some people up. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #11

They had a bipartisan deal in place. John Fante Jan 2018 #5

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #14

Absolutely. The blame sits right at his door. nt LAS14 Jan 2018 #47

Ask them why dump rescinded Obamas DACA order to begin with? lunasun Jan 2018 #7

+1 Cattledog Jan 2018 #28

North Texan Here thbobby Jan 2018 #9

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #12

Much the same here. Except here in my Hortensis Jan 2018 #29

4 repubs voted against it which caused it to fail. tell em that nt msongs Jan 2018 #10

Yes, I failed to mention that. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #13

Five -- Flake, Graham, Lee, McConnell, and Paul. moriah Jan 2018 #55

McConnell only did so for procedural reasons oberliner Jan 2018 #57

Either way, had the GOP had their coalition together, they'd have had... moriah Jan 2018 #62

The whole thing is so ridiculous oberliner Jan 2018 #66

Also, according to Schumer, he had a tentative deal today with trump and hours Nevermypresident Jan 2018 #15

CHIP should have been renewed back in September but McConnell wouldn't bring it up for a vote. world wide wally Jan 2018 #16

Ah...I forgot that CHIP is a bone of contention, too. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #17

How about the new version of DACA the GOP is insisting on requires every Dreamer to make 125% mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #18

Why hasnt the greatest negotiator in history Nevernose Jan 2018 #19

Trump, has well demonstration two things. First, he's an idiot and a fool, knows nothing about RKP5637 Jan 2018 #53

I was being rhetorical Nevernose Jan 2018 #69

Yep, they are damn fools! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #70

Trump has a LONG history of negotiating and then going back on the agreed-upon deal DFW Jan 2018 #20

Here is what Durbin asked on the floor after turtle did the same thing tonight lunasun Jan 2018 #21

I would just say that the Republicans passed the tax bill Kittycow Jan 2018 #22

The tax-bill could pass with 51 due to trickery. This bill would need 60. DetlefK Jan 2018 #27

OK.. I just saw your other post and Kittycow Jan 2018 #31

Why should Democrats vote with the Republicans???? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #23

Tell them: The Republicans have a 51 vote majority but only 46 of them voted for the bill. pnwmom Jan 2018 #24

Just ignore them. They are not worth your time. Kaleva Jan 2018 #25

This: McConnell blocked a bipartisan deal that would have averted the shutdown. DetlefK Jan 2018 #26

"Republicans got this." Deb Jan 2018 #30

Tell them #Trumpshutdown trending number one Lunabell Jan 2018 #32

It's hard to counter Soxfan58 Jan 2018 #33

Republican reflex: Dog Pile on the Rabbit no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #34

The Republicans set the precedent krispos42 Jan 2018 #35

I don't know why you bother to engage them. MoonRiver Jan 2018 #36

The dealmaker can't make a deal. He owns this. Cattledog Jan 2018 #37

hmmm handmade34 Jan 2018 #38

Tell them their lord and savior Donald J. Trump has said it's the president's fault. Vinca Jan 2018 #39

Move. phleshdef Jan 2018 #40

Show them this? workinclasszero Jan 2018 #41

all you have to say is who is willing to negotiate and who said my way or the highway beachbum bob Jan 2018 #42

TRUMP IS ILLEGALLY DEPORTING DACA CHILDREN RIGHT NOW !!! (Show them link inside) uponit7771 Jan 2018 #43

Here's what I said to one... Mike Nelson Jan 2018 #44

Why bother? PJMcK Jan 2018 #45

They didn't have enough GOP votes with four Republicans ...five if you count Mitch... Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #46

Are you able to move? maxrandb Jan 2018 #48

Best response: McConnell blocked a vote on a bipartisan deal sharedvalues Jan 2018 #50

Blame McConnell Worktodo Jan 2018 #59

"I'm moving." n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #51

I'm curious..."My Community" - you mean the town you live in? SharonClark Jan 2018 #52

Who controls ..... Botany Jan 2018 #54

Trump had a deal. He walked away from it. ollie10 Jan 2018 #56

Questions to ask: "Isn't Trump the king of the DEAL?" Why can't he get this one done? Tatiana Jan 2018 #60

Shut downs were never an issue untill randr Jan 2018 #61

Rs control all 3 branches of government; this the 1st shutdown in American history where... VOX Jan 2018 #63

YES.....VOX, HAS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION..... Stuart G Jan 2018 #68

Dont cast your pearls before swine. Lil Missy Jan 2018 #64

Nothing. But you can give a first gut instinct reaction full belly explosive LOL kydo Jan 2018 #65

I would tell them... quickesst Jan 2018 #67