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lapucelle

(21,127 posts) Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:54 AM Jan 2018

Fight back with facts: McConnell voted WITH the Democrats last night [View all]

Last edited Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)

against the motion to invoke cloture, as did 4 other Republicans.

Meanwhile, 5 Democrats cast the same "yea" vote as did the majority of Republicans. This is not "Schumer's Shutdown".

Yes, I know that McConnell's and the 5 Democratic votes were purely strategic and that the measure to end debate needed 60 votes to pass, but facts are facts. The measure failed by a vote of 50-49 with 5 Republicans, including the Senate majority leader, voting on the Democratic side. Casting strategic and/or ideological votes should not be a privilege reserved for Republicans.

Schumer and McConnell cast the EXACT SAME VOTE last night.

I'm going to drive that point home.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/s14

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr195

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Fight back with facts: McConnell voted WITH the Democrats last night [View all] lapucelle Jan 2018 OP

Even if Democrats voted for cloture and every Democrat voted FOR the House bill BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #1

Yes, but McConnell failed in getting the vote to the floor lapucelle Jan 2018 #7

However Der Drumpenfuhrer is tweeting about the 60 vote threshold BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #10

You need to delete your post SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #22

I don't see how this is innacurate. lapucelle Jan 2018 #23

Is Thad Cochran back in DC? n/t malaise Jan 2018 #2

Guys.. this is a procedural vote. The Majority Leader has to vote no in order to allow him hlthe2b Jan 2018 #3

Saved me some typing. Lochloosa Jan 2018 #5

Unfortunately, I've found most people post in threads without reading other comments hlthe2b Jan 2018 #6

I read it ! Thank you for posting that, many of us don't know all these procedures etc...n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #12

But those of us who do know that this was a procedural vote lapucelle Jan 2018 #14

It's also a good talking point because most deplorables won't realize about the Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #15

Nor will they realize that it needed 60 votes. That's my point. lapucelle Jan 2018 #18

Many even fail to read the entire OP. lapucelle Jan 2018 #19

Many people would be saved typing if they read the whole OP. lapucelle Jan 2018 #17

Yes, I know it's procedural, but that's not how Republicans are framing it, lapucelle Jan 2018 #9

That's why it's important to read the entire OP. lapucelle Jan 2018 #13

Wow! sheshe2 Jan 2018 #4

Calm down. It's just procedural so the majority leader can bring it back to a vote. Nf procon Jan 2018 #8

Yes, I know. I said that in the OP lapucelle Jan 2018 #11

Maybe you should add this to the OP because everybody is just getting hung up on Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #16

It is in the OP. lapucelle Jan 2018 #20

I edited to bold the information so speed readers don't miss the point. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #21