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frazzled

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90. And in that kind of blind inflexibility lies his failure
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

It's what has compelled him to speak out in favor of the Supreme Court's Citizen's United decision:

I want to begin by examining several of the most common reactions among critics of this decision, none of which seems persuasive to me. Critics emphasize that the Court’s ruling will produce very bad outcomes: primarily that it will severely exacerbate the problem of corporate influence in our democracy. Even if this is true, it’s not really relevant. Either the First Amendment allows these speech restrictions or it doesn’t. ...

I tend to take a more absolutist view of the First Amendment than many people, but laws which prohibit organized groups of people — which is what corporations are — from expressing political views goes right to the heart of free speech guarantees no matter how the First Amendment is understood. ...

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/22/citizens_united/


It is what caused him to write this fairly shocking screed against undocumented workers and what he calls "amnesty" for them:

The parade of evils caused by illegal immigration is widely known, and it gets worse every day. In short, illegal immigration wreaks havoc economically, socially, and culturally; makes a mockery of the rule of law; and is disgraceful just on basic fairness grounds alone. Few people dispute this, and yet nothing is done.

A substantial part of the GOP base urgently wants Republicans, who now control the entire Federal Government, to take the lead in enforcing our nation’s immigration laws. And yet the GOP, despite its unchallenged control, does virtually nothing, infuriating this sector of its party. The White House does worse than nothing; to the extent it acts on this issue at all, it is to introduce legislation designed to sanction and approve of illegal immigration through its “guest worker” program, a first cousin of all-out amnesty for illegal immigrants. ...

The real irony here is that the problem of illegal immigration is actually one of the very few of the ever-dwindling number of issues that has the opportunity to forge common ground among factions of voters which are, these days, engaged in a ceaseless war with each other. Being worried, and outraged, about illegal immigration is not confined to the extreme precincts of conservatism. Middle-class suburban voters whose primary concerns are local and pragmatic, rather than ideological, know the danger which illegal immigration poses to their communities and to their states, and they want something done about it.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/gop-fights-itself-on-illegal.html


It is what drives him to ally openly with Libertarian stances, bemoaning those Republicans who are not good libertarians and praising those who are:



The current Republican Party has become the party of the Michelle Malkins, Ann Coulters, James Dobsons, and David Horowitzs -- people who scorn libertarian principles and could not be any more hostile to them. Arguably, there are few conflicts more critical to national electoral battles than this one. As Cato Institute's Brink Lindsey recently observed: "libertarians are in the center of the American political debate as it is currently framed." But nothing has undermined libertarian principles more than Republican rule of the last five years.

For this reason, intellectually honest believers in liberty and restrained government have chosen to abandon the Republican Party because it is devoted to an endlessly intrusive, unrestrained and even lawless government, precepts which could not be any more antithetical to core libertarian principles. But there is a sizeable group of individuals, empitomized by Reynolds, who claimed adherence to libertarianism but who have now fully embraced the most extremist elements of the Bush movement and the Republican Party. In doing so, they have rendered their claimed libertarianism nothing but a hollow symbol, to be trotted out -- when at all -- purely as a manipulative instrument to maintain an image of rationality and moderation ("Extremist? Me? I'm for gay marriage&quot .

That is the choice which national political figures with some degree of libertarian impulses, such as John McCain and Rudy Guiliani, are confronting.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/libertarians-and-republican-party.html


It's what causes him to give speeches to Paulite Libertarian groups:

At a talk given the day after the 2010 election — one that was a disaster for Democrats — “progressive” writer and civil liberties lawyer Glenn Greenwald gave a talk at the University of Wisconsin, and expressed the hope that Democrats might suffer the same fate in 2012.
Greenwald’s speech mainly focused on civil liberties and terrorism policy “in the age of Obama.” But it was his approach to politics that got members of the Young Americans for Liberty — a Paulite Libertarian group that co-sponsored the event — excited:
The speech was stellar with too many good points to touch on in a single blog post. I would like to point out that in the Q&A at 38:00 Greenwald specifically addresses a possible alliance between progressives and Ron Paul libertarians. He also mentions Gary Johnson as a unique candidate with possibly the best chance of bringing this coalition together in a 2012 run for president.



http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/04/re-rise-of-the-naderites-glenn-greenwalds-third-party-dreamin/


To get paid by the Cato Institute (yes, the Libertarian Cato Institute) just because they are for making drugs legal, and to flirt with Ron Paul, while ignoring all his crazy and dangerous ideas:

Salon writer Glenn Greenwald insists he’s not a Cato Instituter (he just writes for them from time to time) — though he clearly appears to be a Libertarian, and a guy with a particular fondness for Ron Paul.
Greenwald’s consistent praise of Paul is based solely on the Republican presidential candidate’s positions on the civil liberties issues with which Greenwald is principally concerned. Paul opposes foreign interventionism, the PATRIOT Act and extrajudicial assassination of terrorist suspects, so he’s AOK with Glenn.

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/12/should-glenn-greenwald-have-to-own-the-ron-paul-blue-plate-special/


Most disgustingly, it is what caused him to freely choose to defend America's most notorious Nazi on a copyright case, and then verbally defended him after he solicited the murder of the judge in the case (Judge Lefkow's mother and husband were later found murdered in her home):

Greenwald defended White Supremacist Matthew Hale who solicited the murder of a Federal Judge on his website. That’s not protected speech. Threatening to assassinate or soliciting the assassination of someone is a crime.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/09/us/white-supremacist-is-held-in-ordering-judge-s-death.html?src=pm

Hale solicited the murder of Federal Judge Joan Lefkow because she ruled in favor of a multicultural church who sued Hale over copyright issues regarding his use of the name “World Church of the Creator” which they were already using.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2003/spring/creator-crack-up?page=0,0

Greenwald defended Hale in this so called “First Amendment” case claiming solicitation of murder was protected speech.
From the above NYT link:
“Glenn Greenwald, a lawyer for Mr. Hale, said the charges filed today might stem from a misinterpretation of a statement by his client on the Internet that ”we are in a state of war with Judge Lefkow.’”

Matthew Hale was later convicted and sentenced to 40 years for soliciting an FBI informant to murder Federal Judge Joan Lefkow. So Glenn is not a very good Civil Rights attorney either since he claimed the solicitation of murder was a violation of Free Speech and not a crime. Coincidentally, Greenwald closed up his law practice just after losing this case claiming he was tired of litigating full time. http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/response-to-right-wing-personal.html

http://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/the-glenn-greenwald-some-on-the-left-dont-know/ [div]

The so-called "consistency" you cite as a virtue is actually a deficit: As the great American thinker and poet Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote in his Self-Reliance

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.








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Did you know that Glenn Greenwald supported both the Afghan and Iraqi war? n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #1
Actually I did not. Can you provide a link? nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #2
I added it to my original post. n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #3
Thanks. My display on DU is all messed up for some reason. nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #4
It sounds as if he feels he was duped like many others. Bonobo Dec 2011 #6
To listen to his rhetoric today against the Iraqi and Afghan wars Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #7
So what is your reasoned defense for the Afghan War? nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #8
I really don't think I'm the subject of this thread. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #12
You seemed to be criticizing Greenwald for now opposing the Afghan War. Bonobo Jan 2012 #15
You seem intent on making this discussion about me. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #19
No, I am merely making it about your statements. Bonobo Jan 2012 #28
If this was a thread about my politics and not Greenwald's, you might have a point. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #33
Yes and I asked you about your position vis a vis his "consistency". Bonobo Jan 2012 #37
Yes, you making this about me is when the "wheels came off the train." n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #41
And again, you duck and weave to avoid the question that you cannot answer. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #46
Cannot answer? No. Will not answer because this thread is not about me. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #49
The question you are not answering is quite obviously NOT about you. Bonobo Jan 2012 #50
It most certainly is about me. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #51
Actually your post was the distraction from my OP about domestic politics. Bonobo Jan 2012 #53
The sad thing is, is that their are NUMEROUS Liberal journalists who at the time very much supported FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #69
Next time someone paints me into a corner Puglover Jan 2012 #84
that's a stretch paulk Jan 2012 #16
"enthusiastic and satisfied" support of the Afghan war, as I said. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #17
you may have said it paulk Jan 2012 #55
OK. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #56
how many years ago was this? paulk Jan 2012 #72
Obama is an enthusiastic supporter of the AFghan War still. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #66
Holy smokes! ProSense Dec 2011 #9
APALLING. joshcryer Dec 2011 #11
Like all the Democratic Presidential candidates who voted it? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #24
No, I didn't support their votes. None, nada. joshcryer Jan 2012 #32
Well, good for you. I admire consistency. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #34
I take TBF's position, I'll vote in case they're counting. joshcryer Jan 2012 #45
Lol, what utter nonsense. Now you're trying too hard. I had a feeling that you knew nothing sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #67
An inaccuracy in that hit piece on Greenwald. It WAS generally known that initially sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #18
I guess that's going to be rather subjective a measure. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #22
Right. Just because Greenwald pubished it in a book EFerrari Jan 2012 #35
Yes, I remember it being atop the New York Bestseller List for years Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #38
Yes, I know what the hit piece was about. Hitchens was a jerk. I'm sorry he died, but just because sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #68
You don't deny that Greenwald waited until Hitchens was dead to write Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #70
Well, I never wrote anything much about Ronald Reagan either, UNTIL he died and I saw the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #73
Bullshit, everyone who voted for it and believed it were either doing so for ... joshcryer Jan 2012 #26
I agree! Everyone who voted for it was WRONG. And either too cowardly NOT to do so sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #30
Forgiving for who? joshcryer Jan 2012 #39
Not a hit piece but a fact. vaberella Jan 2012 #76
"Trust in the Bush admin"? The man is shit. vaberella Jan 2012 #75
"supported both the Afghan and Iraqi war?" bvar22 Jan 2012 #82
That's what I respect most about him. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #5
you must have missed this tabatha Dec 2011 #10
Keep reading. He just "had a change of heart." joshcryer Dec 2011 #13
He actually did. Unlike Kerry and Edwards and Gephardt who discovered that while they had sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #21
I have no problem with having a change of heart. I have a problem with believing right wingers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #23
I have a problem with rightwingers too. What is your point? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #25
But it's OK to believe right wingers, particularly when it comes to war? joshcryer Jan 2012 #27
I'm not following you. What rightwinger are you talking about? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #31
Greenwald believed Bush. He said as much. joshcryer Jan 2012 #40
Then there are an awful lot of rightwingers in the Dem Party because they believed sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #57
Where did I say anyone who initially supported the war was a "rightwinger"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #58
Here is where you said it. Stop trying to be cute. Bonobo Jan 2012 #59
Yes, I said "I have a problem with believing right wingers." joshcryer Jan 2012 #60
OK, now I understand. I misinterpreted. Bonobo Jan 2012 #61
No worries, I should've said "I have a problem with people who believe right wingers." joshcryer Jan 2012 #62
It was remarkable to learn that Greenwald ever believed anything Bush said. Bonobo Jan 2012 #63
This is a very touchy issue for me, DU was 100% anti-Iraq. 100%. Anyone for it was either... joshcryer Jan 2012 #65
That is NOT a true statement. bvar22 Jan 2012 #83
I completely disagree. joshcryer Jan 2012 #86
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #81
Let's stick to facts for a change, and not waste time on distractions. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #87
What ProSense Jan 2012 #89
The lesson is not to put anyone on a pedestal noise Jan 2012 #14
No, I did not miss it. I think YOU missed his point though. This was in his book and he explained sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #20
Well said. Failing to admit mistakes is worse than making them in the first place. Bonobo Jan 2012 #29
My head spins here sometimes lately Bonobo. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #36
Yes, exactly. I am still the same politically as I ever was but now I am not even on the radar. Bonobo Jan 2012 #42
And, you were wrong about Libya like Greenwald was wrong about Iraq. joshcryer Jan 2012 #44
Yeah? I wasn't wrong about Libya. joshcryer Jan 2012 #43
I was wrong about Libya? Bonobo Jan 2012 #47
Read some Pacificm as Pathology and understand where I come from. joshcryer Jan 2012 #48
"Pacifism as Pathology". LOL. Bonobo Jan 2012 #52
Eh. I'm not a super fan of Ward Churchill but he makes good points. joshcryer Jan 2012 #54
Churchill is a Vietnam veteran. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #71
I used to crap on him because I am anti-violence, however, over the years... joshcryer Jan 2012 #77
That's what started the trouble mythology Jan 2012 #91
Agree, I didn't buy into the neocon lies either. Cameron27 Jan 2012 #64
Greenwald had Fisk's reports, the reports from the UN inspectors, the knowledge that the UN was... joshcryer Jan 2012 #79
True. mmonk Jan 2012 #74
The war in Afghanistan.. sendero Jan 2012 #78
Excellent post woo me with science Jan 2012 #80
Apparently we are now on Greenwald Underground JoePhilly Jan 2012 #85
He's consistently full of shit. That's for certain. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #88
And in that kind of blind inflexibility lies his failure frazzled Jan 2012 #90
Wow, glad to be the thread ender frazzled Jan 2012 #92
All on the front page of GD right now. Do you see the futility? DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #93
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