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lapislzi

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31. Well said.

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:19 PM

Jan 2018

And, never underestimate the power of religion to fuck things up even more. Those holy holies in the Dutch Reformed (NGK, NHK) churches believed their own bullshit that god had separated the races and it must ever be thus. They took that whole "white man's burden" thing from the British and perverted it unto degrees of magnitude. To be fair, the Dutch were no saints before the British came along. Anyone with a passing knowledge of Calvinism could tell you that.

If you think it's tough being an atheist in the US, try doing it in South Africa. When I lived there in the 80s and 90s, they still had blasphemy laws, fa chrissake. For all I know, they may still.

South Africa was, and continues to be, a deeply weird place.

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I have more than a passing knowledge of Calvinism Nonhlanhla Jan 2018 #34

Thank you for that! lapislzi Jan 2018 #35

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