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44. The answer I heard the most, when they give me one is it should be done because of principle, not if

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:58 PM

Jan 2018

it will accomplish anything or not

In some instances that does apply, however, in this situation it is so obvious that the act of shutting down the government would make things even worse. There would be no chance of funding for CHIPs, DACA wouldn't occur either way, and it could very well make the already formidable challenge of the 2018 election even more difficult.

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Slate - "The Democrats Are Losers. Democrats in Congress fail, again, to deliver for an active, [View all] NRaleighLiberal Jan 2018 OP

Republicans dont wallow in self pity like this RandySF Jan 2018 #1

So we should just stop reading things people write? Esp on progressive sites? NRaleighLiberal Jan 2018 #2

Sometimes, yes RandySF Jan 2018 #3

Yup renegade000 Jan 2018 #4

When they push defeatist arguments that don't help our situation.... fallout87 Jan 2018 #18

Yeah, we would be better off not read Slate. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

Another, in a series... Scurrilous Jan 2018 #5

Fuck Slate. milestogo Jan 2018 #6

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #7

Slate is NOT a progressive site. RandySF Jan 2018 #8

Wikipedia says Slate covers news "from a liberal perspective", but I suppose you have information Atticus Jan 2018 #13

Ever read Nickey Kaus? RandySF Jan 2018 #14

Might you mean "MICKEY" Kaus who left Slate 8 years ago? nt Atticus Jan 2018 #16

The author of this peace has tons of tweets all critical of Democrats...on every subject...so Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #21

Which author of which "peace" are you talking about? nt Atticus Jan 2018 #24

Can't challenge the party line that Schumer did us a favor JackInGreen Jan 2018 #9

Thank you. nt Atticus Jan 2018 #12

This shutdown was bad from the getgo MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #10

I, for one, am shocked---SHOCKED to hear that people daring to call themselves progressives snd Atticus Jan 2018 #11

Yeah if more of us did this...the Dreamer would be safe...the purity pony riders Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #20

I suspect a good number of these self-identifed refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016. still_one Jan 2018 #30

I know, right? Cary Jan 2018 #32

The first reaction of some people is to immediately bash fellow Democrats EffieBlack Jan 2018 #34

Yeah, right! Cary Jan 2018 #31

Is it possible that you truly don't know that my post simply quoted what others here had said Atticus Jan 2018 #40

Why be defensive? Cary Jan 2018 #42

Sure, you have the right to criticize me or any other poster. Just don't make shit up and try Atticus Jan 2018 #43

Except I didn't "make shit up." Cary Jan 2018 #45

Sure you did. Where did I say that Democrats suck or urge anyone to vote Republican? You are Atticus Jan 2018 #47

Where did I say that you said that? Cary Jan 2018 #50

My grandson got his health insurance guaranteed nini Jan 2018 #15

I agree. The guy who wrote the article hates Democrats...more than the GOP in my opinion. sure Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #19

I'm fuming at this stuff on here nini Jan 2018 #23

Me too. I am thrilled about CHIP...and the money was gone in many states...it simply couldn't wait. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #25

yep nini Jan 2018 #29

As Larry O'D Said Me. Jan 2018 #41

That is true...and we may not be able to save DACA...I am hopeful but realistic about it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #26

Many of the same people who are pissed because the Dems didn't keep kids like your grandson in limbo EffieBlack Jan 2018 #36

No kidding nini Jan 2018 #39

Sure...I am going to listen to this Democrat Party hater. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #17

LMAO SHRED Jan 2018 #27

Gee, I wonder how many of those self-identified progressives voted third party or refused to vote still_one Jan 2018 #28

Thank you. They are not "true progressives" Wwcd Jan 2018 #33

I agree still_one Jan 2018 #35

I keep asking them what they think would have been achieved with a continued shut down EffieBlack Jan 2018 #37

The answer I heard the most, when they give me one is it should be done because of principle, not if still_one Jan 2018 #44

For some people, politics is about making a point, not actually accomplishing anything EffieBlack Jan 2018 #46

Stop with the scolding: Democrats NEED Independents appal_jack Jan 2018 #38

One word: numbers. Vinca Jan 2018 #48

The "liberal press" and the CHIP spin Cosmocat Jan 2018 #49

This reminds me of negotiations when I was working. lkinwi Jan 2018 #51