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appalachiablue

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60. For sure. Those who fail to realize that will learn fast.

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 10:33 PM

Jan 2018

We're still living under Reagonomics and all that it's brought, for 40 years now lest we forget.

Jan. 20, 1981 I well remember the Inaugural Address and 'The Government is the Problem' opening shot because I was living, studying and working in DC.

For 12 years we endured the Reign of RR and GHWB, up close. A nightmare I won't forget, same as many others.

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To All the Progressives That are Pissed at Democrats for Voting for the CR... [View all] louis c Jan 2018 OP

Oh Please nini Jan 2018 #1

I'm from California. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #16

You are correct Sophia. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #23

I am from the Bay Area in northern California, reliable blue, and while the large population still_one Jan 2018 #52

Glad you reminded so I don't have to now. Toss in AZ Goldwater, CA Nixon. appalachiablue Jan 2018 #57

Every state has their issues still_one Jan 2018 #59

For sure. Those who fail to realize that will learn fast. appalachiablue Jan 2018 #60

Nunes meeds to be retired. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #64

Have you ever been to the San Joaquin valley or Orange County? As for Nunes, unless implicated by still_one Jan 2018 #66

A bit of perspective Kilgore Jan 2018 #54

2nd that, 'lazy bums'? appalachiablue Jan 2018 #58

Democrats do appear to have walked away from people who worked in the American Sophia4 Jan 2018 #63

NO. We promised them jobs. They chose white supremacy, Hortensis Jan 2018 #84

+10000 nt brer cat Jan 2018 #91

This! mcar Jan 2018 #93

Or the lazy bums who sit around for four years then suddenly ehrnst Jan 2018 #55

Those too. The important thing is to get out the vote. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #62

Hillary got elected by a substantial majority in the general - and was chosen by Democrats to be ehrnst Jan 2018 #67

Strategy -- swing states. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #71

You still didn't answer my question ehrnst Jan 2018 #72

The answer is obvious. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #73

Are you saying that she's the candidate that you refer to ehrnst Jan 2018 #74

Hello? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #81

The party doesn't "choose" candidates. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #75

Depends on how you define "the Party." Sophia4 Jan 2018 #79

The voters. Sometimes the vast majority of them might choose differently than you ehrnst Jan 2018 #80

I was an officer in my Democratic Club and very active. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #82

So, then, what is your answer to the ehrnst Jan 2018 #83

I'm not really sure. That's why I asked the question. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #85

Nice evasion... ehrnst Jan 2018 #86

Thought so. ehrnst Jan 2018 #92

,,, lapucelle Jan 2018 #95

oooh, THAT explains a lot! R B Garr Jan 2018 #96

In NYS, candidacy is open to anyone who is eligible to run. lapucelle Jan 2018 #89

Interesting! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #90

That's funny. Why does it have to be divided up in your mind?? R B Garr Jan 2018 #97

So which Dem candidates would not warrant a vote in comparison to a non Dem? BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #88

candidates who are "warm and loving" R B Garr Jan 2018 #98

Yes, I don't know who this poster is but I like him. brush Jan 2018 #77

I guess for me its this angrychair Jan 2018 #2

I think that faulting the minority party for not changing things louis c Jan 2018 #7

On this particular issue angrychair Jan 2018 #9

At least the Dems heightened awareness on the issue louis c Jan 2018 #12

That is what I think. We gave it our best shot at considerable risk as this is an election year and Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #26

It's not over yet.. it was a strategic move Cha Jan 2018 #44

It could work out...don't know. The GOP doesn't want to alienate the Latina community but they also Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #49

They do not give a shit about that Latina community GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #65

The Dems proved they could and would shut it down for a principle bigbrother05 Jan 2018 #19

Thank you, bigbro Cha Jan 2018 #45

That included the wall money and the military so we have no cards in four weeks and we are closer to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #27

It starts at the state level. If a DUers governor and stage legislature are Republican, Sophia4 Jan 2018 #17

You should make this a stand alone thread...it is that good and on point. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #28

I do not think Democrats lost True Blue American Jan 2018 #35

Any Democrat should receive a 'lifetime appointment' unless a better Democrat comes along who can Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #24

In principle I dont disagree angrychair Jan 2018 #33

I would settle for a little apathy and winning personally. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #37

Thats how we achieved a fossilized leadership Kilgore Jan 2018 #61

Sorry but that's a fantasy maxrandb Jan 2018 #32

I disagree angrychair Jan 2018 #43

The problem is that the Rs cannot be trusted. alarimer Jan 2018 #3

Then rather than "the moral high ground", Democrats will be on firmer ground in shutting down the OnDoutside Jan 2018 #8

We are no worse off...consider this. The GOP will never support DACA not matter what. Now what can w Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #25

Well, we could start by maxrandb Jan 2018 #34

Stop just stop...no bashing the Cleveland Browns damn it. Haven't they been abused Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #38

How do we hold the Rs accountable, though? alarimer Jan 2018 #39

Vote them the hell out of office maxrandb Jan 2018 #41

Great post...and I agree... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #4

I agree with you. Dems made the best of a bad situation, also got something out of it. Demit Jan 2018 #5

Fantastic points, thank you. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #6

"electing more Democrats" HAS to be at the local and state level first. apnu Jan 2018 #10

One tiny quibble... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #11

Politics may be the art of the possible louis c Jan 2018 #13

Democrats are in the majority, but aren't pushed to vote. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #20

My plan is this. Delmette2.0 Jan 2018 #14

Good plan! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #21

Great idea. I usually do something similar. But since my guy Tim Ryan is facing a primary opponent Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #30

Take care of your own district first. Delmette2.0 Jan 2018 #42

Got to...usually Tim is elected easily but Trump took Trumbull county narrowly but still he did it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #50

The problem is that I'm from California. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #15

I'm from Massachusetts, so it's not much different louis c Jan 2018 #18

It is not fair. I wish there was a way out of this mess. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #31

+10000 Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

Great post! spicysista Jan 2018 #29

Shutting down the government is a worse tactic for Dems MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #36

Nope. Dems knew how a shutdown eventually break, but they gambled anyway. procon Jan 2018 #40

You make my point louis c Jan 2018 #47

Mahalo, louis.. interesting, encouraging, Cha Jan 2018 #46

This! mcar Jan 2018 #48

A Republican relative Ohiogal Jan 2018 #51

Only one quote comes to mind. Weed Man Jan 2018 #53

That makes sense to me, nt Progressive dog Jan 2018 #56

just think of all that dry powder! KG Jan 2018 #68

For the most part, we are all liberal progressives who vote for the Democrat. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #69

"For the msot part"...well, there were just enough louis c Jan 2018 #70

I'm a Democrat who works and votes for Democrats. lapucelle Jan 2018 #76

louis, saidsimplesimon Jan 2018 #78

Wow, you still don't get it louis c Jan 2018 #87

Yes! mcar Jan 2018 #94