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scentopine

(1,950 posts)
15. I have a problem with "neutral" and cruel/unusual. Neutral is the cancer killing journalism
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jan 2012

there is nothing neutral about torture or whether earth is 5000 years old or whether black people or women should have right to vote or whether the benefits of slavery should be taught along with negative aspects of slavery or whether the positive aspects of sending Jews to ovens should be taught along side of negative aspects.

There are too many false equivalencies in this world. Not every evil deserves the amnesty implied by neutrality.

Letting kids decide for themselves whether these policies are good or bad is foolish. They are children. Some still believe in Santa Claus.

There are very good lessons in history that need to be taught, not just names, places and dates.


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Cruel and unusual punishment is a phrase describing criminal punishment which is considered unacceptable due to the suffering or humiliation it inflicts on the condemned person. These exact words were first used in the English Bill of Rights in 1689, and later were also adopted by the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution (1787) and British Slavery Amelioration Act (1798).

Very similar words ('No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment') appear in Article Five of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the United Nations General Assembly (A/RES/217, December 10, 1948). The right, under a different formulation ('No one shall be subjected to [...] inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.') is found in Article Three of the European Convention on Human Rights (1950). The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (1982) also contains this fundamental right in section 12 and it is to be found again in Article Four (quoting the European Convention verbatim) of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (2000). It is also found in Article 16 of the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment and in Article 40 of the Constitution of Poland.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment

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Not 'alerting' due to an openhearted sense of goodwill for the new year, elleng Jan 2012 #1
How should democrats teach kids that it is OK to torture? -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #2
I thought Obama was against tortue. I saw him on TV opposed to waterboarding. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
Yep and he was against spying on Americans until he was for it scentopine Jan 2012 #16
I disagree, this is exactly how to show another perspective or WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #5
I agree. n/t YvonneCa Jan 2012 #7
as a teacher you present the facts and let the chips fall roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
My students get a basic introduction LWolf Jan 2012 #3
I was taught using examples of British holding colonists in prison without trial scentopine Jan 2012 #8
I try to avoid teaching words and dates to memorize. LWolf Jan 2012 #23
Good answer. AND a good example of why... YvonneCa Jan 2012 #10
Who pissed in your champagne? femmocrat Jan 2012 #6
Obama signing NDAA and whimpering something about "reservations" -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #11
We don't teach Social Studies. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9
Yes. Good point. We have to stay neutral on torture and whether its OK scentopine Jan 2012 #13
There's a curriculum treestar Jan 2012 #12
I teach science. mr715 Jan 2012 #14
I have a problem with "neutral" and cruel/unusual. Neutral is the cancer killing journalism scentopine Jan 2012 #15
I understand your concern. mr715 Jan 2012 #22
The OP has a good point limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17
Tell them the truth Herlong Jan 2012 #19
We teach what is supposed to be, not what it is Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #20
Well said Scentopine. I have often thought over the last few years what my high school Government Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #21
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