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Sophia4

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71. Strategy -- swing states.

Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:17 PM

Jan 2018

Many more Democrats have to vote to elect a president because so many Democrats are hidden in heavily populated states like California and New York where an individual vote counts for far less than a vote in a state with a low population.

It's extremely undemocratic and unfair, but that is how it is. Democrats have to nominate an outstandingly attractive candidate, someone who appeals to more voters in all states, not just in blue states. We need a moral leader.

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To All the Progressives That are Pissed at Democrats for Voting for the CR... [View all] louis c Jan 2018 OP

Oh Please nini Jan 2018 #1

I'm from California. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #16

You are correct Sophia. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #23

I am from the Bay Area in northern California, reliable blue, and while the large population still_one Jan 2018 #52

Glad you reminded so I don't have to now. Toss in AZ Goldwater, CA Nixon. appalachiablue Jan 2018 #57

Every state has their issues still_one Jan 2018 #59

For sure. Those who fail to realize that will learn fast. appalachiablue Jan 2018 #60

Nunes meeds to be retired. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #64

Have you ever been to the San Joaquin valley or Orange County? As for Nunes, unless implicated by still_one Jan 2018 #66

A bit of perspective Kilgore Jan 2018 #54

2nd that, 'lazy bums'? appalachiablue Jan 2018 #58

Democrats do appear to have walked away from people who worked in the American Sophia4 Jan 2018 #63

NO. We promised them jobs. They chose white supremacy, Hortensis Jan 2018 #84

+10000 nt brer cat Jan 2018 #91

This! mcar Jan 2018 #93

Or the lazy bums who sit around for four years then suddenly ehrnst Jan 2018 #55

Those too. The important thing is to get out the vote. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #62

Hillary got elected by a substantial majority in the general - and was chosen by Democrats to be ehrnst Jan 2018 #67

Strategy -- swing states. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #71

You still didn't answer my question ehrnst Jan 2018 #72

The answer is obvious. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #73

Are you saying that she's the candidate that you refer to ehrnst Jan 2018 #74

Hello? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #81

The party doesn't "choose" candidates. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #75

Depends on how you define "the Party." Sophia4 Jan 2018 #79

The voters. Sometimes the vast majority of them might choose differently than you ehrnst Jan 2018 #80

I was an officer in my Democratic Club and very active. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #82

So, then, what is your answer to the ehrnst Jan 2018 #83

I'm not really sure. That's why I asked the question. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #85

Nice evasion... ehrnst Jan 2018 #86

Thought so. ehrnst Jan 2018 #92

,,, lapucelle Jan 2018 #95

oooh, THAT explains a lot! R B Garr Jan 2018 #96

In NYS, candidacy is open to anyone who is eligible to run. lapucelle Jan 2018 #89

Interesting! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #90

That's funny. Why does it have to be divided up in your mind?? R B Garr Jan 2018 #97

So which Dem candidates would not warrant a vote in comparison to a non Dem? BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #88

candidates who are "warm and loving" R B Garr Jan 2018 #98

Yes, I don't know who this poster is but I like him. brush Jan 2018 #77

I guess for me its this angrychair Jan 2018 #2

I think that faulting the minority party for not changing things louis c Jan 2018 #7

On this particular issue angrychair Jan 2018 #9

At least the Dems heightened awareness on the issue louis c Jan 2018 #12

That is what I think. We gave it our best shot at considerable risk as this is an election year and Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #26

It's not over yet.. it was a strategic move Cha Jan 2018 #44

It could work out...don't know. The GOP doesn't want to alienate the Latina community but they also Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #49

They do not give a shit about that Latina community GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #65

The Dems proved they could and would shut it down for a principle bigbrother05 Jan 2018 #19

Thank you, bigbro Cha Jan 2018 #45

That included the wall money and the military so we have no cards in four weeks and we are closer to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #27

It starts at the state level. If a DUers governor and stage legislature are Republican, Sophia4 Jan 2018 #17

You should make this a stand alone thread...it is that good and on point. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #28

I do not think Democrats lost True Blue American Jan 2018 #35

Any Democrat should receive a 'lifetime appointment' unless a better Democrat comes along who can Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #24

In principle I dont disagree angrychair Jan 2018 #33

I would settle for a little apathy and winning personally. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #37

Thats how we achieved a fossilized leadership Kilgore Jan 2018 #61

Sorry but that's a fantasy maxrandb Jan 2018 #32

I disagree angrychair Jan 2018 #43

The problem is that the Rs cannot be trusted. alarimer Jan 2018 #3

Then rather than "the moral high ground", Democrats will be on firmer ground in shutting down the OnDoutside Jan 2018 #8

We are no worse off...consider this. The GOP will never support DACA not matter what. Now what can w Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #25

Well, we could start by maxrandb Jan 2018 #34

Stop just stop...no bashing the Cleveland Browns damn it. Haven't they been abused Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #38

How do we hold the Rs accountable, though? alarimer Jan 2018 #39

Vote them the hell out of office maxrandb Jan 2018 #41

Great post...and I agree... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #4

I agree with you. Dems made the best of a bad situation, also got something out of it. Demit Jan 2018 #5

Fantastic points, thank you. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #6

"electing more Democrats" HAS to be at the local and state level first. apnu Jan 2018 #10

One tiny quibble... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #11

Politics may be the art of the possible louis c Jan 2018 #13

Democrats are in the majority, but aren't pushed to vote. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #20

My plan is this. Delmette2.0 Jan 2018 #14

Good plan! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #21

Great idea. I usually do something similar. But since my guy Tim Ryan is facing a primary opponent Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #30

Take care of your own district first. Delmette2.0 Jan 2018 #42

Got to...usually Tim is elected easily but Trump took Trumbull county narrowly but still he did it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #50

The problem is that I'm from California. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #15

I'm from Massachusetts, so it's not much different louis c Jan 2018 #18

It is not fair. I wish there was a way out of this mess. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #31

+10000 Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

Great post! spicysista Jan 2018 #29

Shutting down the government is a worse tactic for Dems MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #36

Nope. Dems knew how a shutdown eventually break, but they gambled anyway. procon Jan 2018 #40

You make my point louis c Jan 2018 #47

Mahalo, louis.. interesting, encouraging, Cha Jan 2018 #46

This! mcar Jan 2018 #48

A Republican relative Ohiogal Jan 2018 #51

Only one quote comes to mind. Weed Man Jan 2018 #53

That makes sense to me, nt Progressive dog Jan 2018 #56

just think of all that dry powder! KG Jan 2018 #68

For the most part, we are all liberal progressives who vote for the Democrat. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #69

"For the msot part"...well, there were just enough louis c Jan 2018 #70

I'm a Democrat who works and votes for Democrats. lapucelle Jan 2018 #76

louis, saidsimplesimon Jan 2018 #78

Wow, you still don't get it louis c Jan 2018 #87

Yes! mcar Jan 2018 #94