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Squinch

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210. What you say she said has no resemblance to what she said.

Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:42 PM

Jan 2018

She specifically said that we should NOT listen to all sides and welcome them.

But why actually read what she said when you can just join a pile-on in progress? Amiright?

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Here is the final post by Prue who left DU her first day after being flamed and accused. [View all] femmedem Jan 2018 OP

One question. Did Prue not read that name of the site? Democratic Underground? It is 100% Lint Head Jan 2018 #1

It isn't actually just for Democrats, but rather to advance Democratic candidates femmedem Jan 2018 #9

It is not just to advance Democratic candidates. It was started Lint Head Jan 2018 #19

I serve on my local Democratic Town Committee, have been a campaign manager femmedem Jan 2018 #47

Excellent. We need to run for office. I have been asked to Lint Head Jan 2018 #121

Very well put Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #26

I did not feel she was here to be convinced...just to sow the seeds of division...we need to be Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #53

Completely disagree Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #152

Sorry in the age of Trump if you are unaffiliated then you are a Trumpian or Stein bot. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #205

Sorry I don't believe in painting with such a broad brush Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #209

Which do you consider Bernie? nt Atticus Jan 2018 #226

We are not talking about those who ran...but about those voted for in 16. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #228

I missed it, convinced? What did anyone need to be convinced to do, vote for Democrats? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #201

Exactly she presented herself as unafiliated with either party and started lecturing us on what Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #204

No rational person will have to be convinced to vote for any democrat. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #206

Actually, her post was telling Democrats what we are doing wrong. Caliman73 Jan 2018 #154

Please, this is some serious shit that the country is currently in maxrandb Jan 2018 #187

So fight blindly without any strategy? Just fight wild and hard ... right? Caliman73 Jan 2018 #225

First of all, we made no promises to Dreamers other than we would do our best. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #52

Here's my problem with this argument RandomAccess Jan 2018 #160

I don't know how common this is here, but I have knocked a lot of doors for political candidates. femmedem Jan 2018 #213

We're not actually disagreeing RandomAccess Jan 2018 #215

I wasnt part of the thread, so I kinda say this is a place where u have to be ready to debate... FreepFryer Jan 2018 #2

LOL-- i remember that from the old Compuserve forums dawg day Jan 2018 #34

I don't see this as Goodbye Cruel DU so much as taking the time to hold a mirror up femmedem Jan 2018 #54

How I took it... some of Prue's points were spot on btw. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #89

Sorry, that seems like a very thin skinned person dhol82 Jan 2018 #3

Here is a link to her first post. The rest follow. pnwmom Jan 2018 #6

I agree with the message in her post and posted the same ideas earlier today. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #17

Exactly. I feel strongly about this, too. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #20

exactly bdamomma Jan 2018 #128

I remembered it pretty well...full of shit and came here to cause division. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #55

What gets to me is the 3rd person references GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #166

when she was referring to "they" and "them" she was referring to the party leaders DrDan Jan 2018 #167

Sorry, just saw the link. Will com back after I have read the issue. dhol82 Jan 2018 #7

Wait. She lays out a case for her reasoning and gets jumped all over Egnever Jan 2018 #12

bingo - several long-timers got their ire up and rather than debate in an adult manner, DrDan Jan 2018 #72

Spot on. cwydro Jan 2018 #101

there sure is DrDan Jan 2018 #106

Yes they came on very strong about the messaging treestar Jan 2018 #63

It seems a shame that a person who is open about being an Independent pnwmom Jan 2018 #4

Yes, plus she offered an original thought. femmedem Jan 2018 #11

Hear, hear. F. Kafka Jan 2018 #14

Guys are we going to fall for the same bullshit we fell for in 16. She was mostly full Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #56

absolutely - we used to be much more open toward ideas - now. to some, an idea is only worth DrDan Jan 2018 #68

I really appreciated the way you stood up for her, then and in several threads since. n/t femmedem Jan 2018 #74

I was pretty shocked with her "welcome" DrDan Jan 2018 #79

true that bdamomma Jan 2018 #129

LOL this is not an echo chamber treestar Jan 2018 #70

I don't think you mean this to be funny. Squinch Jan 2018 #81

LOL. In many ways this IS an echo chamber hueymahl Jan 2018 #178

No, people do it all the time treestar Jan 2018 #196

+1. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #119

Yes. This. eom Tipperary Jan 2018 #124

Appealing to people's sympathies is GOOD framing dawg day Jan 2018 #35

For US it is. That doesn't mean it is the only effective framing or that an appeal to "honor" pnwmom Jan 2018 #38

That would be a lie treestar Jan 2018 #71

It has nothing to do with individual presidents Kentonio Jan 2018 #140

There is no obligation to the Dreamers treestar Jan 2018 #197

There is an obligation from a country that claims to care about human rights and decency Kentonio Jan 2018 #221

I agree but would not call it an obligation, quite treestar Jan 2018 #227

It's great framing for us. This is my favorite TED talk and it describes why it doesn't work for all femmedem Jan 2018 #51

And working! Most people supported it! treestar Jan 2018 #67

It does for MOST. But why not ADD the perfectly true framing that the DACA young people pnwmom Jan 2018 #184

They had no way to treestar Jan 2018 #195

You don't remember the publicity at the time. We DID tell them that their information pnwmom Jan 2018 #198

Then we were dishonest treestar Jan 2018 #208

But that about DACA is obviously wrong treestar Jan 2018 #64

Nicely put. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #175

I Take Exception To Her Notion Me. Jan 2018 #5

"Barge in without a whiff of diplomacy"? Sheesh Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #28

Utter Nonsense Me. Jan 2018 #88

Meh. Classic GBCW. DarthDem Jan 2018 #8

+1 (n/t) FreepFryer Jan 2018 #10

Im giving you only one chance to do what I tell you or Im leaving. :-) msongs Jan 2018 #15

Or, in this case, I gave you a chance and now Im taking my marbles and going home. FreepFryer Jan 2018 #16

Actually, she brought up a good point and instead of discussing what she brought up womanofthehills Jan 2018 #37

But this is the Internet! That never happens! (n/t) FreepFryer Jan 2018 #49

It was not a good point; it was ridiculous treestar Jan 2018 #69

Seriously...is that all it takes for you to tuck tail and run then good luck in the world. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #22

I wouldn't call it tucking tail. I'd say she didn't find the discourse productive or enjoyable. n/t femmedem Jan 2018 #50

I agree. It seems to me that she continued to be respectful and tried to stay on track. Tipperary Jan 2018 #66

You might feel that way, until it happens to you. LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #73

Well it has happened to me actually. I didn't make a bring drama stink of leaving. I just Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #93

Her comment about messaging...was she wrong? n/t LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #94

I'm not even talking about her post...just the drama surrounding the exit. nt Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #96

The above post reads to you as "dramatic"? nt shanny Jan 2018 #155

Exactly. treestar Jan 2018 #65

It's a Shame Leith Jan 2018 #13

It is interesting what you say - that you lurked for a year then finally began posting. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #25

+1 bdamomma Jan 2018 #131

Yes. I agree. There's something missing about a person who marybourg Jan 2018 #32

You're conflating two seperate things. Kentonio Jan 2018 #142

Well said. nt shanny Jan 2018 #156

Cry me a river... GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #18

How typical of this place recently. Kentonio Jan 2018 #143

Please note I did not respond to Prue. Although I read the thread GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #161

You shouldn't have a hard time if you're not 'all in'. Kentonio Jan 2018 #220

I know what you mean. MarvinGardens Jan 2018 #171

In the real world no one considers me a moderate GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #174

Meh. You can only go down the Lets Criticize Democrats R B Garr Jan 2018 #21

What does "independent" mean anyway? dawg day Jan 2018 #36

LOL, I enjoyed your post. I agree about questioning "independent". R B Garr Jan 2018 #145

Well, 'bye - - - Sam McGee Jan 2018 #23

Her post was spot-on and well stated. Atman Jan 2018 #24

The Democrats have a serious problem with those who fall for the divisive bullshit from folks Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #76

This! mcar Jan 2018 #97

Exactly! Time to pull together and beat the GOP...thus far our Dem leaders are doing just fine. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #109

I think so too bdamomma Jan 2018 #135

I agree completely. We need to vote period and accept that we won't all agree 100%. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #207

It's hard to message when your platforms for messaging are limited. haele Jan 2018 #173

its easy to cause an accidental shitstorm when you're new... one false move and your goose is cooked TalenaGor Jan 2018 #27

A spelling error! Oh dear.. Cha Jan 2018 #30

I had to escape from that too.... LeftInTX Jan 2018 #45

Oh that was Baaaad! greenwald Cha Jan 2018 #46

The head of a university English Dept. I know is that school's Linguistics professor. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #39

I try to use proper grammar and spelling tavernier Jan 2018 #59

Most do, but things do slip through the cracks. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #105

I am dyslexic and fix multiple spelling errors...saying why would just cause more spelling errors Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #77

DU wasn't for her if she left that quick JI7 Jan 2018 #29

Damn shame. cwydro Jan 2018 #31

I'm really going to miss her and her 26 posts...nt SidDithers Jan 2018 #33

You are hilarious...haha. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #78

... mcar Jan 2018 #98

"core democrat supporters"? ucrdem Jan 2018 #40

Good advice. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #80

Personally I find it rather amusing... quickesst Jan 2018 #41

I remember that thread Hav Jan 2018 #42

Well.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #43

I hope she comes back LeftInTX Jan 2018 #44

Running off allies is a winning Democratic strategy Arazi Jan 2018 #48

While 99% Of The Time, I Share Your Concern About That. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #85

Meh. DU can be forgiven for being suspicious of preachy first-timers Orrex Jan 2018 #57

Preaching standard anti-Democratic messages on DU is our problem. Hortensis Jan 2018 #75

Then whining about echo chambers and bullying when there is push-back against anti-Dem messages. betsuni Jan 2018 #194

GBCW NCTraveler Jan 2018 #58

I lurked for years on DU...I was working full time with kids not much time...got my news from DU. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #82

Nice post, Republican. GTFO Orrex Jan 2018 #170

Yes Miss Prue, your advice works both ways. Wwcd Jan 2018 #60

Surely you realize how trolled this site is and thus the hypersensitivity you appeared to have hlthe2b Jan 2018 #61

Exactly. Try Yahoo comment section for reaffirmation as to how antagonism is met Wwcd Jan 2018 #90

this new poster was treated very unfairly (imo) by a couple of long-time DUers DrDan Jan 2018 #62

Two words...support Democrats. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #84

. DrDan Jan 2018 #87

Why does your account have to be deactivated? If you stop posting, it'll deactivate anyway. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #185

she was new to DU - didn't know the ins-n-outs - plus her frustration level was DrDan Jan 2018 #186

That's why people lurk so long before they jump in with instructions on "messaging". But my... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #188

that was her post as to how she voted - that's why the source was also provided - sorry for DrDan Jan 2018 #189

IOW, just another garden variety GBCW from some anonymous internet troll. Pfft. No big loss. nt Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #190

who needs Dem votes . . . DrDan Jan 2018 #192

I have mine. Your pride is up to you. The poster in question was just rehashing the themes of '16, Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #193

Agreed. CanSocDem Jan 2018 #110

Yep. Too many seem to think "Democratic"--as in what the party says/stands for-- shanny Jan 2018 #158

Yup, it was depressing yet completely unsurprising. Kentonio Jan 2018 #146

focus on woman's health instead of politics in "DC MEETINGS" helps more people who need help NOW, Sunlei Jan 2018 #83

That is a great point. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #86

Broaden Democrats reach tazkcmo Jan 2018 #91

+ a million. I seriously doubt Prue was even an Independant as she stated. Wwcd Jan 2018 #95

Ah right, so we won 70% of the vote in the last election did we? Kentonio Jan 2018 #147

No tazkcmo Jan 2018 #203

And 10 is greater than 5 Kentonio Jan 2018 #222

Can you even believe this shit? It's clear that half of these people never even read the Squinch Jan 2018 #212

Agreed. Kentonio Jan 2018 #223

Yes. It seems that some simply follow what they see others say and happily join the pile on. Tipperary Jan 2018 #224

Did you read what she said? Because she said the opposite of what you seem to think she said. Squinch Jan 2018 #211

I'm sorry but reaching out to Trump supporters or Republicans is a waste of time. alarimer Jan 2018 #92

She didn't advocate for changing our platform, only how we discuss our platform to conservatives. femmedem Jan 2018 #99

but reaching out to the middle-of-the road independents is not a waste of time DrDan Jan 2018 #102

Yes. alarimer Jan 2018 #136

who cares if they are fickle - we need their vote DrDan Jan 2018 #137

LOL! She said exactly the same thing. And she was very clear that she did not Squinch Jan 2018 #202

Why are we supposed to be so devastated that this right winger thinks we suck? kcr Jan 2018 #100

this person has consistently voted Dem except for once in 2003 DrDan Jan 2018 #103

Bullshit kcr Jan 2018 #104

how do you know that is not her voting record DrDan Jan 2018 #107

I'm not talking about her voting record. You brought it up. kcr Jan 2018 #113

you claimed she was a "right winger" - does that not imply voting preferences? DrDan Jan 2018 #114

I see no reason why her claim she voted for Dems should erase the rest of her bullshit. kcr Jan 2018 #117

so her words that the Dems need to improve messaging is out-of-bounds DrDan Jan 2018 #118

But that wasn't her message kcr Jan 2018 #120

I am willing to listen to her . . . and support her right to express her opinion here . . . and I am DrDan Jan 2018 #122

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #123

no thanks - just fine right here . . . but thanks for your ongoing concern DrDan Jan 2018 #125

Okay then. kcr Jan 2018 #126

What you say she said has no resemblance to what she said. Squinch Jan 2018 #210

I hope she returns, nothing wrong with making suggestions Motley13 Jan 2018 #108

IMO, there's a thin line between guidance toward Eyeball_Kid Jan 2018 #111

The ususal suspects KTM Jan 2018 #112

Discussionist and The Cave are that way kcr Jan 2018 #115

well said - they feel emboldened here to bully anyone who says something contrary to DrDan Jan 2018 #116

And many who were here for decades have similarly been run off Arazi Jan 2018 #183

You stated this perfectly. Some of those same posters post about how they despise bullying. Tipperary Jan 2018 #127

100% agree with you on that. When I first joined I too was met by some of the very same bullies, but OnDoutside Jan 2018 #130

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #132

Your last paragraph says it all. Tipperary Jan 2018 #138

There's nothing middle-school about pointing out how outdated a phrase from last week is. kcr Jan 2018 #139

A phrase from last week? Oh my goodness! Tipperary Jan 2018 #141

Well, it's obvious I'm not in the right crowd n/t kcr Jan 2018 #144

Yea. SixString Jan 2018 #153

Lol! cwydro Jan 2018 #169

Spot on. SixString Jan 2018 #148

Exactly this. Kentonio Jan 2018 #149

Thank you! nt Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #168

So true melman Jan 2018 #199

I think this reply put it best, in that thread: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 #133

If people had just disagreed with her point, then that would have been fine. Kentonio Jan 2018 #150

Internet discussion boards aren't for everyone. Orsino Jan 2018 #134

This seems Meta to me. n/t seaglass Jan 2018 #151

Now I feel stupid for being part of the jury that didn't hide this post... hunter Jan 2018 #157

I like that phrase hueymahl Jan 2018 #176

I'm not at all embarrassed to associate myself with the Democratic Party. hunter Jan 2018 #181

I am not either, I am a Proud Democrat hueymahl Jan 2018 #182

Been here since 2003. democrank Jan 2018 #159

New ideas kcr Jan 2018 #162

Agree. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #165

Okay, what's your new idea? hunter Jan 2018 #180

I didn't read all of her posts but she is right about our messaging. Chemisse Jan 2018 #163

There was nothing wrong with her original post. It was thought provoking and clearly pro-dem Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #164

She just needs a thicker skin (nt). MarvinGardens Jan 2018 #172

This right here lunasun Jan 2018 #177

+1 leftstreet Jan 2018 #200

The welcoming committee here sucks? Generic Brad Jan 2018 #179

They sound intelligent and write well Dem2 Jan 2018 #191

when i saw the original exchange questionseverything Jan 2018 #214

She was treated very unfairly. Her posts read as being from someone calm and looking for discussion OhioBlue Jan 2018 #216

I also was on DU before I began volunteering on political and issue-based campaigns. femmedem Jan 2018 #219

hear you loud and clear AmandaRuth Jan 2018 #217

Yes, if we can't talk to each other femmedem Jan 2018 #218