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Ms. Toad

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15. Please don't encourage this particular version of lawlessness

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

Jan 2018

by identifying him as a "sovereign citizen," as if it was a real thing. There is no such thing.

Aside from incidents like this, these idiots file court cases (and appeal when they lose), cobbling together bits and pieces of law from completely unrelated subjects as if you can apply criminal law to the interpretation of contract (for example). Because it is all law from somewhere, the time it requires for the courts to track down and counter the gibberish is tremendous - and you can't just say it's nonsense without tracking down and explaining why the recited law is completely inapplicable.

Not that I've ever had to draft an opinion responding to an appeal from one of these losers or anything . . .

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Arizona sovereign citizen destroys innocent motorist's car, blames police for it [View all] jmowreader Jan 2018 OP

Please tell me the other driver is OK. NutmegYankee Jan 2018 #1

"Non-life-threatening" injuries jmowreader Jan 2018 #3

It's always unfair how the scumbag that causes an accident seems to be fine, NutmegYankee Jan 2018 #12

Had "non-life-threatening injuries" csziggy Jan 2018 #6

Non-life threatening injuries can mess you up jberryhill Jan 2018 #27

including onethatcares Jan 2018 #34

True nt csziggy Jan 2018 #45

Sovereign citizens background for those interested: grossproffit Jan 2018 #2

More white domestic terrorists. Not important though. Because at least not Muslim! Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #7

Interestingly, the only sovereign citizen I have personally encountered is black. missingthebigdog Jan 2018 #30

Then you need to get out more! Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #44

only "county sheriffs" are legit.... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #13

They believe the sheriff is the only legitimate law enforcement authority jmowreader Jan 2018 #26

That must make Connecticut a law free zone for them. NutmegYankee Jan 2018 #50

I've seen a video where that was argued jmowreader Jan 2018 #56

Woah......I did not know that. Now I have a zillion questions. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #72

Connecticut uses a form of local government called the New England Town NutmegYankee Jan 2018 #73

IMO it could be hand-down from western states treestar Jan 2018 #63

Also, if your name is in all caps in legal paperwork... MarvinGardens Jan 2018 #59

I've read those too the flag fringe treestar Jan 2018 #62

Why was he afforded a press conference? How many get free press conferences upon arrest? grossproffit Jan 2018 #4

Exactly! bdjhawk Jan 2018 #17

Ratings. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #24

Was that the chase Hannity switched to last night rather than malaise Jan 2018 #5

Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2018 #9

Oh My malaise Jan 2018 #11

Mitch Taebel's prison movie is called "Behind Bars" and everyone there will be coming to his opening TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #38

Good malaise Jan 2018 #49

There's no movie. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #52

I know malaise Jan 2018 #53

Amusingly written treestar Jan 2018 #64

This guy is going to jail. His cell mate can hear it. JDC Jan 2018 #8

Sovereign citizens declare they aren't citizens of this country NCDem777 Jan 2018 #10

Sovereign citizen? I think not... GReedDiamond Jan 2018 #14

No this guy is a full blown psychopath. Initech Jan 2018 #19

You are absolutely correct... GReedDiamond Jan 2018 #21

Yes, regardless of the so-called excuse treestar Jan 2018 #65

Please don't encourage this particular version of lawlessness Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #15

I know it isn't a real thing as well as you do jmowreader Jan 2018 #20

The ones I've run into proudly claim that label Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #23

Yeah... it really pisses off the Free Inhabitants, too jberryhill Jan 2018 #29

Haven't seen it, Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #31

2m48s jberryhill Jan 2018 #32

Send her to ICE if she is not a US citizen RainCaster Jan 2018 #33

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #35

I love that one Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #43

Thats not the best part, but its close jmowreader Jan 2018 #46

Edited because I am dumb treestar Jan 2018 #67

They most definitely were rendered null and void when we adopted the Constitution Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #69

That is a gem! treestar Jan 2018 #66

This is why we need to build a wall JI7 Jan 2018 #16

What is wrong with these people? Initech Jan 2018 #18

There are several branches of sovereign citizenship jmowreader Jan 2018 #28

There is no such thing as a law license! treestar Jan 2018 #68

He isnt the only one claiming that jmowreader Jan 2018 #70

Oh my! And yes to your last sentence! treestar Jan 2018 #71

And this is why Conman's travel bands are illogical. Dawson Leery Jan 2018 #22

Every so often when I'm bored and have a bit of time to kill....... WillowTree Jan 2018 #25

The Bundy Bunch Mendocino Jan 2018 #36

He does have one point dsc Jan 2018 #37

They probably suspected the car was stolen localroger Jan 2018 #40

So what dsc Jan 2018 #41

Come on with that bullshit, he was being pulled over by a police officer, Pull over. Old Vet Jan 2018 #47

The lady whose car was hit dsc Jan 2018 #48

dsc , The police did back off. Notice how long it took for them to catch up...... Old Vet Jan 2018 #60

They still were chasing him dsc Jan 2018 #61

With the acquittal of the Bundys by a Judge in Nevada it's only going to get worse. Hugin Jan 2018 #39

No they were career prosecutors who did a bad job grantcart Jan 2018 #51

YES, this is the same high-speed chase Hannity ended his program with the other night ! eppur_se_muova Jan 2018 #42

What a mo-ron shenmue Jan 2018 #54

I got quite a bit of exposure to that freakazoid "philosophy" The_jackalope Jan 2018 #55

May he mess up his life without causing harm to others. LiberalFighter Jan 2018 #57

For the most part, ignorant white wingers, gun-strokers, intimidators, and losers. Hoyt Jan 2018 #58