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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
67. I lived in Las Vegas for 25 years and bet sports
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jan 2018

From early 1984 to late 2008. I worked as sportsbook supervisor at the Horseshoe. I also worked with major betting groups. We would pool money and go around town searching for bargain lines on everything. One guy would be at home on the computer while a few of us circulated from sportsbook to sportsbook. It was a math oriented approach. Instead of picking winners we would essentially reverse the house edge in our favor, by collecting favorable numbers. That was '95 to '98 at heyday and it was the primary reason I had extra money to invest in Apple.

The Venetian is one of my favorites. I can't count how many times I dashed across the bridge to Treasure Island. That's when every sportsbook had its own numbers. I'd grab a strange number at Venetian and play it off a standard number at Treasure Island. Or the reverse.

These days the sportsbooks are not independently run any more. For example, those monitors in every Venetian sportsbook seat didn't use to be there. There was nothing in front of you except a blank counter space to hold drinks or paperwork, etc. People watched the games from those seats and had to walk to the counter to make bets. Nowadays that sportsbook is linked to others around the state and wagers can be made smack from the seats.

I realize that is convenient for tourists but it basically ruined matters for local wise guys. Instead of picking off one mistake after another from 45 independent operations, there are standard numbers everywhere in town and only perhaps 10-12 different organizations sensing out those numbers. Corporate mergers and technology ruined sports betting in Las Vegas.

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Yes MissB Jan 2018 #1
I want to move mine to safe cash - but when is the question. Hope it's the day Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #3
We did shift recently when the company merger was completed. MissB Jan 2018 #17
Never heard of aged based fund Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #18
Pretty common for employer 401ks MissB Jan 2018 #19
I have the T.Rowe Price 2010 Fund. It is set up for the year you expect to retire doc03 Jan 2018 #21
I've Got That Too ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #25
What? nt LexVegas Jan 2018 #2
What what? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #4
yep! fescuerescue Jan 2018 #31
Ive been adjusting every few months RandySF Jan 2018 #5
Yup. I have been told, though, that Trump could be impeached and jailed and gone Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #8
My 401k has been doing great for the past 8 years (7 Obama, 1 Trump).... Thanks, Obama! scheming daemons Jan 2018 #6
You are right ! He pulled us out - wish he could have had three terms ! Maybe Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #7
Move it to safer investments. Bonds will do well when the DOW starts to collapse. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #9
Yes.have been doing that...kind of a crazy Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #12
I dont know D_Master81 Jan 2018 #44
Yes...it used to be when stocks did poorly bonds Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #47
"mine has grown 40% since January" progree Jan 2018 #39
Duh...meant Jan 2017..sorry Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #41
Same here. Thanks Obama. n/t FSogol Jan 2018 #24
ours has done well too..plus our stocks are going crazy. Hubby calls it blood money. samnsara Jan 2018 #26
I have TlalocW Jan 2018 #10
I am lucky to have someone I know...but imagine Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #14
dont forget taxes D_Master81 Jan 2018 #45
I'm pretty sure you can move it to cash within your 401K or IRA mama Jan 2018 #55
We continually invest and keep our investments balanced. brooklynite Jan 2018 #11
Funny thing about losing money in 2002 and 2007 Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #15
We lost money in the same periods... brooklynite Jan 2018 #22
You only lost money if you panicked and sold when the market was down, parkerMcDavis Jan 2018 #70
If the market goes up, your old investments increase in value... brooklynite Jan 2018 #74
A diversified portfolio is best. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #13
Exactly.. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #16
Trying to Time the market is a fool's game Fiendish Thingy Jan 2018 #20
What makes you think Trump being arrested or resigning or whatever will drop the market? progree Jan 2018 #23
Not really fretting.... Adrahil Jan 2018 #27
thank you so much ! was getting tired of all the lectures on investing in the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #29
Yeah, for some reason, a lot of Democrats disdain investing in the market... Adrahil Jan 2018 #34
Our financial advisor is saying it's time to start moving to cash. Atman Jan 2018 #28
Interesting ! like CDs? treasuries? Its such an predicament to be in. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #32
Hey, I'm no financial expert. Atman Jan 2018 #36
There is no indication the market is overvalued. What is your guy using parkerMcDavis Jan 2018 #71
Thanks to Obama's policies, my 401k is up about 40% in 2017. fescuerescue Jan 2018 #30
You did good. Yes...my failure was in 2002 - I was in between Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #37
30,000 Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #33
I think the market has maybe a year left in it. Adrahil Jan 2018 #35
Can't go up forever Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #40
Thank you, exactly right. parkerMcDavis Jan 2018 #72
my 401k burnbaby Jan 2018 #38
I moved most of my palty pittance of a 403B Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2018 #42
Yup...all the preaching about the markets Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #43
under obama D_Master81 Jan 2018 #46
I don't think Obama bragged enough. Always Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #48
I am doing very well Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #49
Apple WOULD have made me a fortune DFW Jan 2018 #51
I invested $10,500 in Apple between '96 and '98 Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #66
Do you ever go to Vegas? Last time we went, we wanted to Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #62
I lived in Las Vegas for 25 years and bet sports Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #67
I haven't, but probably should DFW Jan 2018 #50
Incorrect MichMan Jan 2018 #53
I had checked into the rules for an IRA, and that was the law concerning a non-Roth IRA DFW Jan 2018 #54
If you continue to work, you do NOT have to take RMD's from your 401(k) until you retire A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #56
Ah, that's what I thought. DFW Jan 2018 #58
Really, that's interesting. Do you have to work a minimum # of hours? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #63
A couple answers I found: A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #73
For a regular (not Roth) 401K or IRA mama Jan 2018 #57
See my post #56 above A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #59
But what if I'm still working at age 70? DFW Jan 2018 #60
Waiting for the people who told everyone the market was going to crash the day after the election... MichMan Jan 2018 #52
You are right - but it's still interesting to hear input when Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #64
Why they were wrong. Near zero interest rates ooky Jan 2018 #68
I think we should be good until at least 2020 AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #61
It sounds like you aren't picking the right funds... cbdo2007 Jan 2018 #65
I dont understand, how could you have not gotten back what you lost parkerMcDavis Jan 2018 #69
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