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93. Whatever, there was the wall too which was not in the fiinal CR...and the CR was shorter.

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:48 PM

Jan 2018

And if we continued the shutdown with no GOP types...it is on us only...and they could have taken CHIP out at any time. The GOP isn't giving in on DACA...we have one more go at it...but you can't shut down the government until 18. It is not caving but recognizing we don't have the power to fix this.I don't think we will get DACA in two weeks either...better take the best deal the GOP offers... because that is all there will be.

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Just saw interview with Rachel and Chuck Schumer...There were protesters at his house. Why?Why? [View all] Demsrule86 Jan 2018 OP

TRUE shenmue Jan 2018 #1

Thanks. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #2

It makes me sick, too. R B Garr Jan 2018 #29

cause they are f**king nuts. Are these the same folks who refused to vote for the Democratic still_one Jan 2018 #3

It is useless too...He is on their side as is Pelosi. They could protest at vulnerable pugs in Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #8

I am skeptical just who these so-called protesters are still_one Jan 2018 #15

That is a good point...could be just anti-Democrat our revolution types who were almost certainly Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #17

'Immigration Activists Are About to Go Off on Chuck Schumer ' Baclava Jan 2018 #20

Is this the Credo that mail bombs incessantly? sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #21

'CREDO Action, the activist arm of the wireless phone company' n/t Baclava Jan 2018 #23

Credo Action, that's it. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #26

Seriously? No one can help people as foolish as this. It takes two to negotiate. If the Dreamers Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #44

I also dont think we should assume these protesters are speaking for the majority of the dreamers still_one Jan 2018 #73

I don't know...if the larger Dreamer organizations get involved...it sure looks that way. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #77

Me too Joediss Jan 2018 #27

It is possible that he has infiltrated the groups behind this. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #52

Looks Latino Cedric140k Jan 2018 #33

They are frustrated so they attack the Democrats, ignoring that the republicans have the majority in still_one Jan 2018 #37

Everything you say is true. The only thing I would add is their actions make the Gop less Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #45

You are right, and based on what trump is saying today, no wall, no DACA on confirms it is trump still_one Jan 2018 #68

So why not protest those who are actually threatening then and who can do something about their Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #53

so true I completely agree probably 'hired thugs' wish there were pics Rene Jan 2018 #72

Right Protesters Are At The Wrong Place. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2018 #4

The Dreamers only chance is to influence the Republicans. They should work it...less than three week Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #9

amazing disconnect bigtree Jan 2018 #5

That is what I think. And there are vulnerable GOP types in the House and the Senate Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #10

Mahalo, bigtree I'm sure he Cha Jan 2018 #34

I think they are and so is Trump. He issued the EA that made Dreamers vulnerable to deportation Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #46

Mahalo, Dems.. I enjoy Cha Jan 2018 #83

You are too kind! I learn way more from you. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #84

That makes too much sense. Guess it's too hard to think things through. brush Jan 2018 #6

I feel bad for Dreamers but they need to try to help themselves by encouraging people to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #11

Absolutely. They're getting bad advice and are also victims of evil repug... brush Jan 2018 #22

They need to have a better strategy. This strategy is ineffective against the GOP and will get them Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #55

Think Joediss Jan 2018 #30

But why don't they ever take on those who create the evil...the Republicans or Trump? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #56

Now Latino protesters are the "far left"? shanny Jan 2018 #66

"They're barking up the wrong tree" old timers would say. oasis Jan 2018 #7

It won't work. Such a waste of time and energy. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #13

Maybe we could go to his house to support him? raging moderate Jan 2018 #12

That is a great idea. He lives in Brooklyn. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #14

I'll be there.. Wish I could! Cha Jan 2018 #35

I am in Ohio in the middle of selling my house as we bought another house...and we need to sell asap Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #47

For the same reason that they bitched and whined about everything Obama did 4now Jan 2018 #16

This makes no sense. Obama wanted to do immigration reform and created DACA by an EA Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #48

The Circular Firing Squad Strikes Again dlk Jan 2018 #18

Aww.. there's no "circular firing Cha Jan 2018 #36

Am I in the firing squad...when this post defends Democrats and the leadership in particular? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #49

Cause they are idiots? GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #19

I don't think shutting the government down works either. In fact someone last night said the Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #50

For the same reason Dems rarely control Congress AND the White House helmedon1974 Jan 2018 #24

I agree completely +1000 Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #51

Why? They picked up the same RW talking point that has been prevalent on DU BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #25

Pluses for you! sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #28

+1, we were botted yesterday no doubt uponit7771 Jan 2018 #42

So now that we know the MO BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #74

We will march forward! Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #80

That is a very good point ...excellent in fact. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #57

Follow up on post #74 BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #75

Maybe they feel they have a better chance of being heard there. SixString Jan 2018 #31

If they shook up the GOP it would help...and being 'heard' by Schumer who doesn't have the power to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 2018 #32

The fell in with the automatic diss of the Democrats without a foundation. Anny61 Jan 2018 #38

And it helps elect Republicans repeatedly. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #59

They live down the street from me Dorian Gray Jan 2018 #39

No doubt, but this protest is hurting the Dreamers's cause and is on all the media. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #60

Read some of the interviews with the protesters oberliner Jan 2018 #40

Why not just tell me. The thing is regardless of their reasons not only are they being unfair to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #41

That's what I wondered. Every Democrat will vote to give them a path to citizenship. Vinca Jan 2018 #43

Yeah, it really is their only hope. We don't have the levers of power. And now way we can shut the Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #61

cuz theyre children politically.. they dont understand... samnsara Jan 2018 #54

No it isn't and I wish they would help themselves by taking the fight to the GOP. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #63

Spot on. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #62

Thanks! I just don't get it...those who attack the Democratic Party only help the GOP. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #64

I'm going to venture a guess... NCTraveler Jan 2018 #65

I have no problem with protests. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #67

I have to really wonder if TrishaJ Jan 2018 #69

It could be true. This is not in the best interest of Dreamers so someone is giving them bad advice Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #70

We cheered the night *they* picketed JFK airport en masse to counter the Muslim ban a year ago Kolesar Jan 2018 #71

I cheered because they took on the GOP...they didn't picket Democrats who are on their side. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #78

[x] Like for your post...eom Kolesar Jan 2018 #81

Thank you very much. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #82

Why? ollie10 Jan 2018 #76

And some people expect the impossible...the GOP did this...period and end of story...the House has Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #79

Oh we almost got the impossible...we snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory ollie10 Jan 2018 #86

Bullshit. There was no way the GOP was giving in on DACA...any that expected such Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #88

They were going to do Chip anyway, that was on the original resolution we filibustered and caved on ollie10 Jan 2018 #90

Whatever, there was the wall too which was not in the fiinal CR...and the CR was shorter. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #93

Be happy the massrrs give us crumbs? ollie10 Jan 2018 #95

We don't the power to save the Dreamers. Shutting the government won't work. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #96

Why don't we use the power we do have? ollie10 Jan 2018 #97

Best deal they offer? What if that is nothing? ollie10 Jan 2018 #98

I have never had friends in St Petersburg nolabels Jan 2018 #91

There are many on the far left who are too eager Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #85

And we really do need to let them go. They are not on our side. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #89

I'm going to guess a lot of participants of the protest are directly effected by DACA Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #87

Protests aren't about making someone look bad loyalsister Jan 2018 #92

They're better off heading to Trump Tower crazycatlady Jan 2018 #94

Reminds me of BLM protesters crashing Bernie Sanders rallies Azathoth Jan 2018 #99