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In reply to the discussion: Did anyone else realize this country was finished on January 20, 1981? [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)The real death blow came when Kerry was rejected for Bush II.
Now, John Kerry had many great qualities, qualities that have not been seen in ANY Democratic candidate in recent memory. Yes, I do include BOTH Clintons and Obama in this statement.
This man was both a war hero, and a war protestor. He knew what young kids were dealing with getting shot up in a messed up war.
This man had a sterling record in the Senate, a long track record of leaning left.
Yes, Edwards fell from grace, but at that time, he was someone actually willing to speak about "that other America" that gets the shaft, in ways that no one has done since.
However, he gpot swift boated. Also, there were many democrats who were waging the "protest not vote" strategy that worked so damned well in 2000. Even Garry Treadu called him Herman Munster.
And then dean had to go YEEEE-Haw! in a blatant attempt to become the guy "confederate flag" types would like.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x195077
And indeed, his 50 state strategy, while having noble intent, did indeed open the door for just those sort of Democrats, though Bill Clinton sure helped set it up. Now, the Democrats thought they would have 'supermajorities", not realizing that not only did the Foxy Dinos sneak into the henhouse, they stole the farmer's gun, as evidenced by the fact that no one DARED slap down Joe Lieberman for outright treason.
Are we fully dead?, no, because we have endured worse. But while we may get better, we will still have the scars, and there is no way that Asia will let us become the superpower again. Hell, at this point, even the almighty European Union looks very wobbly, again due to it's own share of hubris, and people thinking that they should not have to pull another weight than their own. Of course, the great societies realize that the burden of one becomes the burden of all, and in 2004, we all forgot that, and as a result, we will have to admit we elected W. once.
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