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25. I'm beginning to think that both the MSM and our politicians

Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:05 PM

Jan 2018

have convinced themselves, wrongly IMO, that talking about our voting problems will in itself suppress the vote. I think that's counterproductive in at least 2 ways --

1. We need to KNOW problems in order to solve them and
2. Massive turnout is one of the best short term "fixes" for election fraud of the types we've been experiencing, so tying THAT message to the truth about our problems could be very helpful.

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"Watch How insanely easy it is to hack US voting machines" [View all] triron Jan 2018 OP

yep, that's exactly what we're supposed to believe; and GOP chose not to do it either... NOT. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #1

I bet they teamed up to do it! triron Jan 2018 #2

The Sequoia has already been proven to have recorded massive amounts of Trump votes. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #3

You have a reference for that? Would be nice to collect all triron Jan 2018 #4

It was posted here some time back sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #6

It actually doesn't appear to be that easy at all. Captain Stern Jan 2018 #5

Are you new in town? sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #7

The video shows hackers specifically hacking individual voting machines. Captain Stern Jan 2018 #9

Trump is not our President. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #11

Cool. I look forward to seeing your proof if/when you get it. nt. Captain Stern Jan 2018 #15

You don't understand the hack mythology Jan 2018 #20

how can we find evidence when no one looks? questionseverything Jan 2018 #36

Agree, Captain. It's not as easy as they make it, and there is no evidence it happened in 2016 Hoyt Jan 2018 #10

Why then this? I suppose you are more an expert than this scholar. triron Jan 2018 #21

Another it COULD happen. No evidence it did happen. Hoyt Jan 2018 #27

I refer also to posts 19 and 23. triron Jan 2018 #30

#23 says nothing. I didnt read 19 because I saw the link about gerrymandering, which has absolutely Hoyt Jan 2018 #32

Biggest reason for lack of evidence is nobody looked. triron Jan 2018 #33

Never said it was secure. We are way behind in that respect. But, thats not why we lost. Hoyt Jan 2018 #34

when was there a meaningful, comprehensive investigation that would obtain this evidence? never, TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #40

Im not OK sounding like a beat boxer saying it was rigged. We lost, we could Hoyt Jan 2018 #44

"we can add fake voters, subtract voters from the voter record, vote multiple times..." triron Jan 2018 #8

Exactly. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #12

And we will always have our naysayers. triron Jan 2018 #13

Some don't want to consider the possibility themselves sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #14

A good resource for election system corruption triron Jan 2018 #16

A few more, assorted RandomAccess Jan 2018 #19

I really find the testimony by Halderman to be an eye opener. triron Jan 2018 #23

I'm beginning to think that both the MSM and our politicians RandomAccess Jan 2018 #25

IMO, paper receipts are useless. we need all paper ballots, all hand-counted, all the time. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #41

100% agree RandomAccess Jan 2018 #45

Why bother? kwijybo Jan 2018 #17

Perhaps that's exactly what they did. triron Jan 2018 #18

all those tow-headed, fresh faced youngsters with funny accents BamaRefugee Jan 2018 #22

thats why rtracey Jan 2018 #24

this. in the final analysis, hand-counting is the gold standard. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #42

I observed INSIDE a precinct in Los Angeles during the Democratic primary. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #26

There should always be a printed paper trail JohnnyRingo Jan 2018 #28

what proves that the receipt and the vote recorded in the machine are the same? that too is hackable TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #43

You get to see the printed paper as the vote is cast JohnnyRingo Feb 2018 #46

Senseless confusion... TomVilmer Jan 2018 #29

What are you talking about? There has been no suggestion that anything like this happened. triron Jan 2018 #31

- except a lot of the answers... TomVilmer Jan 2018 #35

personally i think the fix is ussually done at the reporting level questionseverything Jan 2018 #37

kick for visibility triron Jan 2018 #38

knr triron Jan 2018 #39