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longship

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29. That is abject rubbish.

Sun Jan 28, 2018, 10:09 PM

Jan 2018

Most research on genetic modification has absolutely nothing to do with Round-Up. Or Monsanto.

To say otherwise is just plain made up rubbish.

Why lie about something that can be so easily falsified?

Here's some science:
* https://www.popsci.com/article/science/core-truths-10-common-gmo-claims-debunked

* http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/07/are_gmos_safe_yes_the_case_against_them_is_full_of_fraud_lies_and_errors.html

* https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-genetically-modified-food/

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/06/29/more-than-100-nobel-laureates-take-on-greenpeace-over-gmo-stance/

That's after just a quick Google.

There's a whole lot more, but I don't want anybody to get overwhelmed. Well, the evidence of GMO safety is a bit overwhelming.

My best to you.

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Anti-GMO? Pro-GMO? Food Evolution A full-length doc on the science of genetically engineered... [View all] steve2470 Jan 2018 OP

All food is genetically modified, one way or another. longship Jan 2018 #1

Yup Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #13

In fact, there's absolutely no evidence that GMOs are unsafe. longship Jan 2018 #16

If they contain allergens that a consumer isn't aware of they might be -- for a person pnwmom Jan 2018 #70

That is why there is regulations. longship Jan 2018 #71

Are you kidding? Why do you think Ted Kennedy pushed for a food labeling bill? pnwmom Jan 2018 #73

Genetic engineering, one of the most regulated things on the planet. longship Jan 2018 #75

Why are you afraid of labeling? wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #77

Labeling gives one zero information. longship Jan 2018 #81

You certainly seems wedded to that unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #90

Well, just look at the anti-GMO argument. longship Jan 2018 #96

If it's so great, then you should be happy to label it. That's all I want. pnwmom Jan 2018 #72

Maybe the anti-GMO crowd does not want to eat Roundup womanofthehills Jan 2018 #18

What in the Sam Hell does that have to do with it? longship Jan 2018 #20

You are not going to find GMO's without Roundup - they were made for each other womanofthehills Jan 2018 #26

That is abject rubbish. longship Jan 2018 #29

Corn is the #1 crop of the USA and most of it is GMO - HELLO - it was modified to be Roundup Ready womanofthehills Jan 2018 #34

Bad science makes for bad results. longship Jan 2018 #35

This was peer-reviewed. pnwmom Jan 2018 #74

Bad link. nt longship Jan 2018 #76

It works if you copy-and-paste. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #78

The food industry has a history of putting out information that is biased in its favor. Because you wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #79

Golden Rice!!! nt longship Jan 2018 #82

Golden Rice Is Not So Golden womanofthehills Jan 2018 #88

Few GMOs are cultivars, you mis-used the term cultivar. PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #66

Well, obviously I am not an Ag guy. longship Jan 2018 #67

Obviously you are not an ag guy. PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #69

Look, I don't want to eat GMO. That does not make me a kook. I want the right to choose what I eat wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #83

The anti-GMO crowd absolutely does not only want choice. longship Jan 2018 #84

Again I say it, Monsanto's science womanofthehills Jan 2018 #89

Literally everything you eat is genetically modified mythology Jan 2018 #104

We are talking about GMO! wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #108

Here we go PatSeg Jan 2018 #91

Monsanto doesn't like the labeling trend of non organic non gmo foods . Cuts into their profits lunasun Jan 2018 #100

Well PatSeg Jan 2018 #101

Well if you call this guy on it then you are a complete jerk! lunasun Jan 2018 #102

"I'm not an idiot" PatSeg Jan 2018 #103

Hi - always like it when the intelligent, rational folks post womanofthehills Jan 2018 #111

Apparently some things PatSeg Jan 2018 #112

If you are trying to avoid toxic chemicals in your food, then maybe Organic isn't the right choice. progressoid Jan 2018 #113

Thanks for posting this! customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #2

This documentary won't make any difference. Archae Jan 2018 #3

YUM! YUM! Love all that Roundup on the GMO's womanofthehills Jan 2018 #19

Anti GMO is the same as anti-Vaccine GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #4

I don't "believe" in science. Archae Jan 2018 #5

Well, there is "science" by Monsanto and other "science" womanofthehills Jan 2018 #36

anti-gmo IS pro-science. there is plenty of scientific evidence to at least question the safety of TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #7

Show me. Archae Jan 2018 #9

GMO does decrease biodiversity, so if there is a blight it will have far more impact on crop yields. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #11

You totally neglect to explain the reason food production kept ahead of population growth: GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #14

I didn't say anything about hating GMO, that's a projection of thought. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #40

All the things you stated played a very small role GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #48

Then why are you BSing about the significance of GMO's in the last 40 years? TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #54

Borlaug's wheat and other work are examples of plant breeding, of creating PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #68

His breeding techniques were definitely not the same as GMO GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #87

"Monoculture" farming was happening for decades before GMOs. progressoid Jan 2018 #39

The push for selling GMO seeds, the false claims of a better/cost effective product are drivers. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #43

Claims of a better/cost effective product have been drivers whether they are GMOs or not. progressoid Jan 2018 #51

Since you love the charts, get some more recent data, say from the 2015 or later. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #56

That's rich. progressoid Jan 2018 #80

Yea, pesticides and herbicides and vaccines are becoming all the same womanofthehills Jan 2018 #23

Are we allowed to talk about GMOnsanto now? lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #106

Thousands of farms were acquired by Monsanto & Pioneer in South America using GMO seeds. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #6

Exactly Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #10

If you are worried about global warming... progressoid Jan 2018 #12

In farming towns, the rain contains glyphosate womanofthehills Jan 2018 #46

Don't even know what to say Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #47

uh...wut? progressoid Jan 2018 #15

I've taken biology courses, as recently as a year ago. That evolution point failed its target. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #42

At this point all Im really worried about is if its contaminated with E. Coli, listeria, etc. herding cats Jan 2018 #8

and Roundup is rampant in our food supply & Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antiobiotic?? womanofthehills Jan 2018 #21

Problem is Roundup (glyphosate) is sprayed & poured heavily on GMO's womanofthehills Jan 2018 #17

No. The problem is not Round-Up. It's anti-science kookery. longship Jan 2018 #22

So you trust Monsanto I guess womanofthehills Jan 2018 #24

No, I don't trust Monsanto. longship Jan 2018 #25

It's not just glyphosate in Roundup - the adjuvants are worse womanofthehills Jan 2018 #27

Now we have the inevitable special pleading. longship Jan 2018 #30

Actually, glyphosate messes up so many pathways in our bodies - interesting study with Danish cows womanofthehills Jan 2018 #38

Total Organic Eater here since the '70s, Cha Jan 2018 #55

I'm a total organic eater too, Cha womanofthehills Jan 2018 #61

I'm so jealous! I love New Mexico! Cha Jan 2018 #62

Also, washing your veggies won't help because glyphosate is systemic womanofthehills Jan 2018 #31

More special pleading? longship Jan 2018 #33

Glyphosate is in the water, and the plant takes up the water - and like magic - it's in the roots womanofthehills Jan 2018 #41

More Monsanto and glyphosate screeching? longship Jan 2018 #49

Here is some interesting reading - Monsanto being sleezy again..... womanofthehills Jan 2018 #53

Dicamba in use now also lunasun Jan 2018 #57

If a farmer uses dicamba and it drifts into your yard it will basically kill most everything womanofthehills Jan 2018 #59

A dicamba/glyphosate herbicide mix is being sprayed on some crops like soybeans lunasun Jan 2018 #60

Organic farming is a scam. longship Jan 2018 #65

Del Monte is sourcing many products from non GMO and is not organic . No GMO does not mean organic lunasun Jan 2018 #92

Non-GMO means non-science based agriculture. longship Jan 2018 #93

Just pointing out that non gmo and organic are not necessarily the same and that's not made up shit lunasun Jan 2018 #95

Anti-GMO is by definition made up shit. longship Jan 2018 #97

Again ...my response was to your comment bringing up organic farming . You seem all over the place lunasun Jan 2018 #99

By far, anti-GMO means pro-organic. longship Jan 2018 #105

Monsantos Roundup Herbicide May Be Most Important Factor in Development of Autism and Other Chronic nolabels Jan 2018 #28

Now you are posting the most nutbuggery of the nutbuggery GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #32

Actually, Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antiobiotic - "might mess up your gut" womanofthehills Jan 2018 #45

I am sure you are one or in contact with a microbiolgist nolabels Jan 2018 #50

Mercola: The left's version of climate change denial. progressoid Jan 2018 #37

One of my grandsons has autism and fuck this noise ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #98

Thanks for posting this. StarryNite Jan 2018 #64

Article - 10 ways to keep your diet GMO-free CentralMass Jan 2018 #44

This article is pure bullshit. Archae Jan 2018 #52

If produce is genetically modified, you should see a five digit code sticker beginning with 8 womanofthehills Jan 2018 #58

Good info! StarryNite Jan 2018 #63

Thanks. CentralMass Jan 2018 #85

Funny you put a photo of a lemon... GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #107

GMO papaya is on the market womanofthehills Jan 2018 #109

A list of some GMO free foods. CentralMass Jan 2018 #86

Good list - I know one of our organic grocery stores in NM womanofthehills Jan 2018 #110

This thread is going to be great! ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #94