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TheBlackAdder

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54. Then why are you BSing about the significance of GMO's in the last 40 years?

Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:18 AM

Jan 2018

You know I am narrowing my discussion to the 70s and current years. Early genetics did help, but that was overshadowed by late sixties and more recent developments in agriculture, which did not have anything to do with genetics. Sure, I learned of the man who saved a billion people, but his initial efforts were later paled by other technical advancements. More recent pushes for GMO, by Monsanto and others, are just more of a sales pitch to sell a product than actually reap a true benefit.

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Anti-GMO? Pro-GMO? Food Evolution A full-length doc on the science of genetically engineered... [View all] steve2470 Jan 2018 OP

All food is genetically modified, one way or another. longship Jan 2018 #1

Yup Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #13

In fact, there's absolutely no evidence that GMOs are unsafe. longship Jan 2018 #16

If they contain allergens that a consumer isn't aware of they might be -- for a person pnwmom Jan 2018 #70

That is why there is regulations. longship Jan 2018 #71

Are you kidding? Why do you think Ted Kennedy pushed for a food labeling bill? pnwmom Jan 2018 #73

Genetic engineering, one of the most regulated things on the planet. longship Jan 2018 #75

Why are you afraid of labeling? wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #77

Labeling gives one zero information. longship Jan 2018 #81

You certainly seems wedded to that unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #90

Well, just look at the anti-GMO argument. longship Jan 2018 #96

If it's so great, then you should be happy to label it. That's all I want. pnwmom Jan 2018 #72

Maybe the anti-GMO crowd does not want to eat Roundup womanofthehills Jan 2018 #18

What in the Sam Hell does that have to do with it? longship Jan 2018 #20

You are not going to find GMO's without Roundup - they were made for each other womanofthehills Jan 2018 #26

That is abject rubbish. longship Jan 2018 #29

Corn is the #1 crop of the USA and most of it is GMO - HELLO - it was modified to be Roundup Ready womanofthehills Jan 2018 #34

Bad science makes for bad results. longship Jan 2018 #35

This was peer-reviewed. pnwmom Jan 2018 #74

Bad link. nt longship Jan 2018 #76

It works if you copy-and-paste. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #78

The food industry has a history of putting out information that is biased in its favor. Because you wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #79

Golden Rice!!! nt longship Jan 2018 #82

Golden Rice Is Not So Golden womanofthehills Jan 2018 #88

Few GMOs are cultivars, you mis-used the term cultivar. PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #66

Well, obviously I am not an Ag guy. longship Jan 2018 #67

Obviously you are not an ag guy. PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #69

Look, I don't want to eat GMO. That does not make me a kook. I want the right to choose what I eat wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #83

The anti-GMO crowd absolutely does not only want choice. longship Jan 2018 #84

Again I say it, Monsanto's science womanofthehills Jan 2018 #89

Literally everything you eat is genetically modified mythology Jan 2018 #104

We are talking about GMO! wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #108

Here we go PatSeg Jan 2018 #91

Monsanto doesn't like the labeling trend of non organic non gmo foods . Cuts into their profits lunasun Jan 2018 #100

Well PatSeg Jan 2018 #101

Well if you call this guy on it then you are a complete jerk! lunasun Jan 2018 #102

"I'm not an idiot" PatSeg Jan 2018 #103

Hi - always like it when the intelligent, rational folks post womanofthehills Jan 2018 #111

Apparently some things PatSeg Jan 2018 #112

If you are trying to avoid toxic chemicals in your food, then maybe Organic isn't the right choice. progressoid Jan 2018 #113

Thanks for posting this! customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #2

This documentary won't make any difference. Archae Jan 2018 #3

YUM! YUM! Love all that Roundup on the GMO's womanofthehills Jan 2018 #19

Anti GMO is the same as anti-Vaccine GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #4

I don't "believe" in science. Archae Jan 2018 #5

Well, there is "science" by Monsanto and other "science" womanofthehills Jan 2018 #36

anti-gmo IS pro-science. there is plenty of scientific evidence to at least question the safety of TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #7

Show me. Archae Jan 2018 #9

GMO does decrease biodiversity, so if there is a blight it will have far more impact on crop yields. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #11

You totally neglect to explain the reason food production kept ahead of population growth: GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #14

I didn't say anything about hating GMO, that's a projection of thought. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #40

All the things you stated played a very small role GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #48

Then why are you BSing about the significance of GMO's in the last 40 years? TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #54

Borlaug's wheat and other work are examples of plant breeding, of creating PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #68

His breeding techniques were definitely not the same as GMO GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #87

"Monoculture" farming was happening for decades before GMOs. progressoid Jan 2018 #39

The push for selling GMO seeds, the false claims of a better/cost effective product are drivers. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #43

Claims of a better/cost effective product have been drivers whether they are GMOs or not. progressoid Jan 2018 #51

Since you love the charts, get some more recent data, say from the 2015 or later. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #56

That's rich. progressoid Jan 2018 #80

Yea, pesticides and herbicides and vaccines are becoming all the same womanofthehills Jan 2018 #23

Are we allowed to talk about GMOnsanto now? lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #106

Thousands of farms were acquired by Monsanto & Pioneer in South America using GMO seeds. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #6

Exactly Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #10

If you are worried about global warming... progressoid Jan 2018 #12

In farming towns, the rain contains glyphosate womanofthehills Jan 2018 #46

Don't even know what to say Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #47

uh...wut? progressoid Jan 2018 #15

I've taken biology courses, as recently as a year ago. That evolution point failed its target. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #42

At this point all Im really worried about is if its contaminated with E. Coli, listeria, etc. herding cats Jan 2018 #8

and Roundup is rampant in our food supply & Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antiobiotic?? womanofthehills Jan 2018 #21

Problem is Roundup (glyphosate) is sprayed & poured heavily on GMO's womanofthehills Jan 2018 #17

No. The problem is not Round-Up. It's anti-science kookery. longship Jan 2018 #22

So you trust Monsanto I guess womanofthehills Jan 2018 #24

No, I don't trust Monsanto. longship Jan 2018 #25

It's not just glyphosate in Roundup - the adjuvants are worse womanofthehills Jan 2018 #27

Now we have the inevitable special pleading. longship Jan 2018 #30

Actually, glyphosate messes up so many pathways in our bodies - interesting study with Danish cows womanofthehills Jan 2018 #38

Total Organic Eater here since the '70s, Cha Jan 2018 #55

I'm a total organic eater too, Cha womanofthehills Jan 2018 #61

I'm so jealous! I love New Mexico! Cha Jan 2018 #62

Also, washing your veggies won't help because glyphosate is systemic womanofthehills Jan 2018 #31

More special pleading? longship Jan 2018 #33

Glyphosate is in the water, and the plant takes up the water - and like magic - it's in the roots womanofthehills Jan 2018 #41

More Monsanto and glyphosate screeching? longship Jan 2018 #49

Here is some interesting reading - Monsanto being sleezy again..... womanofthehills Jan 2018 #53

Dicamba in use now also lunasun Jan 2018 #57

If a farmer uses dicamba and it drifts into your yard it will basically kill most everything womanofthehills Jan 2018 #59

A dicamba/glyphosate herbicide mix is being sprayed on some crops like soybeans lunasun Jan 2018 #60

Organic farming is a scam. longship Jan 2018 #65

Del Monte is sourcing many products from non GMO and is not organic . No GMO does not mean organic lunasun Jan 2018 #92

Non-GMO means non-science based agriculture. longship Jan 2018 #93

Just pointing out that non gmo and organic are not necessarily the same and that's not made up shit lunasun Jan 2018 #95

Anti-GMO is by definition made up shit. longship Jan 2018 #97

Again ...my response was to your comment bringing up organic farming . You seem all over the place lunasun Jan 2018 #99

By far, anti-GMO means pro-organic. longship Jan 2018 #105

Monsantos Roundup Herbicide May Be Most Important Factor in Development of Autism and Other Chronic nolabels Jan 2018 #28

Now you are posting the most nutbuggery of the nutbuggery GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #32

Actually, Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antiobiotic - "might mess up your gut" womanofthehills Jan 2018 #45

I am sure you are one or in contact with a microbiolgist nolabels Jan 2018 #50

Mercola: The left's version of climate change denial. progressoid Jan 2018 #37

One of my grandsons has autism and fuck this noise ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #98

Thanks for posting this. StarryNite Jan 2018 #64

Article - 10 ways to keep your diet GMO-free CentralMass Jan 2018 #44

This article is pure bullshit. Archae Jan 2018 #52

If produce is genetically modified, you should see a five digit code sticker beginning with 8 womanofthehills Jan 2018 #58

Good info! StarryNite Jan 2018 #63

Thanks. CentralMass Jan 2018 #85

Funny you put a photo of a lemon... GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #107

GMO papaya is on the market womanofthehills Jan 2018 #109

A list of some GMO free foods. CentralMass Jan 2018 #86

Good list - I know one of our organic grocery stores in NM womanofthehills Jan 2018 #110

This thread is going to be great! ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #94