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scentopine

(1,950 posts)
16. Yep and he was against spying on Americans until he was for it
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 09:44 PM
Jan 2012

He was against indefinite detention, until he was for it.

He decriminalized torture and charged CIA with putting new safeguards in place to make sure photos never get leaked again. There are thousands of photos, human rights groups have seen them - they show horrific results of torture along with photos of the people who committed the torture. Obama supported releasing them until it was no longer politically convenient. The perpetrators were a combination of government employees and contractors. The pro-torture lobby in both parties beat down a public inquiry, investigation and prosecution for war crimes.

Obama was against AT&T spying on Americans until it was no longer politically convenient. He was for single payer until it was no longer politically convenient.

Basically, Democratic leadership is willing to support truth and justice until it isn't financially prudent or expedient to do so. When Wall Street CEOs complain (many who control large defense and/or telecommunications firms and could be implicated in an ugly investigation about torture, etc), Obama, the leader of the democratic party, reacts like a good soldier.

As you can see by counting convictions against CEOs and executives of big banks who defrauded trillions from tax payers, justice has no place in the big business of corporate sponsored government.

Like taxes, justice is something to be inflicted on unincorporated citizens.

As more and more public dissent builds up, look for Obama and democratic right wingers to endorse even more draconian measures to control dissent and prevent it from holding the government and industry accountable for their crimes.

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Not 'alerting' due to an openhearted sense of goodwill for the new year, elleng Jan 2012 #1
How should democrats teach kids that it is OK to torture? -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #2
I thought Obama was against tortue. I saw him on TV opposed to waterboarding. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
Yep and he was against spying on Americans until he was for it scentopine Jan 2012 #16
I disagree, this is exactly how to show another perspective or WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #5
I agree. n/t YvonneCa Jan 2012 #7
as a teacher you present the facts and let the chips fall roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
My students get a basic introduction LWolf Jan 2012 #3
I was taught using examples of British holding colonists in prison without trial scentopine Jan 2012 #8
I try to avoid teaching words and dates to memorize. LWolf Jan 2012 #23
Good answer. AND a good example of why... YvonneCa Jan 2012 #10
Who pissed in your champagne? femmocrat Jan 2012 #6
Obama signing NDAA and whimpering something about "reservations" -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #11
We don't teach Social Studies. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9
Yes. Good point. We have to stay neutral on torture and whether its OK scentopine Jan 2012 #13
There's a curriculum treestar Jan 2012 #12
I teach science. mr715 Jan 2012 #14
I have a problem with "neutral" and cruel/unusual. Neutral is the cancer killing journalism scentopine Jan 2012 #15
I understand your concern. mr715 Jan 2012 #22
The OP has a good point limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17
Tell them the truth Herlong Jan 2012 #19
We teach what is supposed to be, not what it is Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #20
Well said Scentopine. I have often thought over the last few years what my high school Government Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #21
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