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Fumesucker

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74. Daisy, Daisy..

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 10:59 PM

Jul 2012

Here's a few WIP pics..

Frame, about 90% finished, it lacks the bottom stiffening tube and bottom bracket shell on the front yet, I haven't decided what BB to use out of the several I have laying around.. I'm probably going to add one more stiffening tube to the rear triangle as well, it's a little too open still.

Front fork and wheel, the dropouts for the axle are not the final ones just temporary while I figure out the layout, routing the chain for a front wheel drive is tricky.. Once I get it all working the way I want I'll upgrade the running hardware components, no point in putting nice stuff to get scratched up on a prototype you're going to be hacking on..

Seat, it's made of purpleheart, a moderately exotic wood, I've had this apart several times now tweaking the curved shape for maximum comfort, that's why I used screws and all the slats aren't on.. The screws are antique brass that I salvaged from an upright piano that was headed to the scrap yard..

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One pedestrian death caused by a bicyclist's negligence and DU explodes with anti bicycle venom.. [View all] Fumesucker Jul 2012 OP

Um, maybe a link? DiverDave Jul 2012 #1

I guess if you didn't see it it didn't happen.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #4

Now, see, using that sort of reply would DiverDave Jul 2012 #7

I'm just ticked off in general this morning, nothing personal at all.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #8

I had a crazy woman do a California stop and pull out right in front of me awhile back. alphafemale Jul 2012 #83

I'd laugh, but that's one dangerously stupid driver. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #85

That was 9 months ago proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #10

It was 9 months ago because it's a rare event.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13

had to ell ohh ell at the critical masshole who stated "we obey traffic laws" frylock Jul 2012 #54

This is the first time I'm seeing a thread on bicycles. Skidmore Jul 2012 #2

Wait justanidea Jul 2012 #3

Actually it's cars that are doing the killing of bicyclists for the most part.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #6

Bicycles aren't killing people nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #93

Are you serious? You think bicyclists are killing 600 others? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #158

Everything I know about bicycles I learnt on evening television, ya know, the 2on2u Jul 2012 #5

I'm both a cyclist and an avid walker. In both, drivers of cars are incredibly unaware, distracted, hlthe2b Jul 2012 #9

Evidently you've had many close calls with cars and drivers.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #12

Bicycles kill people. ileus Jul 2012 #11

I have seen bicyclists cause the death of a motorcyclist and a pedestrian ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #70

Given the penchant of American drivers to MineralMan Jul 2012 #14

I believe you just had an incident where transportation was critical to you.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #19

I have no brief against bicycles or bicyclists. MineralMan Jul 2012 #25

I have flashing lights on my bike that would do an ambulance proud.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #34

You might want to get rid of the flashing lights. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #63

Too much light pollution, a steady light is ignored/disappears amongst all the other visual noise.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #65

Those are very good safety measures. MineralMan Jul 2012 #64

There's an old saying about flying.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #66

Ever hear of a scooter? snooper2 Jul 2012 #87

Yeah, and if they're the cheap Chinese ones I can buy dozens of broken ones for a song.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #92

I live in a 'deep south exurbia' unapatriciated Jul 2012 #157

I own bicycles and guns slackmaster Jul 2012 #15

I'm just commenting on the similarity of the reactions. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #16

Many posters on DU seem to really resent cyclists for no good reason obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #20

DU is pretty mild in that regard.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #22

I'm not sure about the helmets... Chan790 Jul 2012 #86

People wear helmets when they do things that are considered hazardous.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #95

I'd support car helmet. Chan790 Jul 2012 #117

I find myself agreeing with you Irishonly Jul 2012 #82

A lone nut, criminal, or careless person does something bad, and some react by calling for... slackmaster Jul 2012 #26

On the one hand we have a quite uncommon negligent accident.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #37

The FBI disagrees slackmaster Jul 2012 #40

Mass murders are become less common rather than more? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

Sorry, it wasn't clear to me that you were referring to mass murders slackmaster Jul 2012 #47

Me too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17

I saw mostly the same half dozen gun lovers on all the threads lunatica Jul 2012 #18

Eh, DU is divided on bicycles just like it's divided on many things.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #21

I was referencing what happened this weekend and the gun lovers lunatica Jul 2012 #23

Both groups are right. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #24

The only "anti bicycle venom" I have is reserved for Critical Mass... Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #27

Every day I see bikes go thru red lights and stop signs without stopping. I walk quite WI_DEM Jul 2012 #28

Every day I see cars speeding... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #30

Everyone needs to observe the laws. MineralMan Jul 2012 #33

yeah, if you obey all traffic laws and regulations hfojvt Jul 2012 #76

me too hfojvt Jul 2012 #75

And, yet, you expect the cars to all stop MineralMan Jul 2012 #80

Tiggers are bouncy, flouncy, trouncy, downcy, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun hfojvt Jul 2012 #148

Wait, what? the thread is from nov of '11. Javaman Jul 2012 #29

No, just making a point about the severity of the crime and the reaction here on DU.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #31

at least you didn't suffer paralysis... Javaman Jul 2012 #38

No, the incident took place this morning.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #41

the rage dam just burst it seems loli phabay Jul 2012 #62

You can pry my bicycle from my cold dead hands. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #32

LOL. Yep, me too. cliffordu Jul 2012 #35

We also have two tandem bicycles. Great way to travel. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #42

Getting ready for a ride from Port Townsend, Wa to Salem Oregon cliffordu Jul 2012 #52

Then follow the fucking road rules! Logical Jul 2012 #89

WTF makes you think we don't?? cliffordu Jul 2012 #91

Roads? We don' need no stinkin' roads, mon. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #150

I get hassled by cars when I ride NO MATTER WHAT I'M DOING. The Stop Sign thing is an excuse. Romulox Jul 2012 #36

I've been riding a recumbent Bike E for about five years now.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #45

I've admired your bike before. It's cool that you get more respect now, but why? Romulox Jul 2012 #48

Being different I guess, it kind of startles people just a little.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #49

Truly awesome plan fumesucker! I'd love to pics when it's done, or even W.I.P. pics. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #72

Daisy, Daisy.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #74

You sir, are a mad genious (and I say that with huge admiration!) Romulox Jul 2012 #79

Nice Shop!! CokeMachine Jul 2012 #84

word.. frylock Jul 2012 #61

Here's a story: a toothless hillbilly in a pickup buzzes me...in the *bike lane*, and yells Romulox Jul 2012 #73

i had dropped my car off for service a couple weeks ago.. frylock Jul 2012 #77

Sorry to hear about the incident. Definitely a W.T.F. moment. Romulox Jul 2012 #78

i'm real partial to Giant myself.. frylock Jul 2012 #81

Thanks for the advice. LBS is Giant. No transition dealers in Mich., tho. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #153

are you near Tree Fort? frylock Jul 2012 #154

Oh yeah. Bought my last bike from them! Very nice place to visit in person, too. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #155

fyi... saw a post on Vital stating the new Giant Trance X 29er to be released in August.. frylock Jul 2012 #156

When a bicycle is used to injure 70 people in a matter of minutes Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #39

Why then does Holland not have mandatory helmets? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #43

I have no idea. Bicycle helmets are a really good idea. So are trigger locks. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #46

Most of Holland is flat, with a good infrastructure for cycling. HuckleB Jul 2012 #94

Ah, people don't have bike crashes where it's flat.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #97

Is that your final response? HuckleB Jul 2012 #98

It was your argument that Holland is flat and hence less dangerous for bikes.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #99

Oh goodness. HuckleB Jul 2012 #101

We were discussing your claim that Holland is safe for bicycles because it's flat.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #107

I noted that it was safer. HuckleB Jul 2012 #110

We were discussing the terrain specifically and your claim it made it made bicycling safer.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #112

It seems that you are just posting for the sake of posting. HuckleB Jul 2012 #123

I want to know what the contour of the land has to do with it? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #137

For one, the contour of the land tends to make infrastructure easier. HuckleB Jul 2012 #138

You mean because America is built for cars therefore bicyclists should be mandated to wear helmets. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #139

Nice spin. HuckleB Jul 2012 #140

Why do you want to keep people off bicycles? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #141

PS: HuckleB Jul 2012 #122

Sigh. Yeah, I hear you. I was nearly killed yesterday. Prism Jul 2012 #50

du rec. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #51

DU has become a mean place. Peregrine Took Jul 2012 #53

Not to mention I've seen a lot of false equivalency arguments on here lately. Initech Jul 2012 #59

Teen on Bicycle Causes Thousands In Damage. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #55

Oh lord, flashbacks. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #57

To be fair, the mention of bicycles causes a 20-point IQ drop just about everywhere. Posteritatis Jul 2012 #56

I didn't see a bicycle being used to harm 58 people and kill 12 in a movie theater. Alduin Jul 2012 #58

Horrors! Mandatory bike helmets! Who wants to reduce serious head injuries pnwmom Jul 2012 #60

And yet in Holland where the bicycle is more common than the car... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #90

Who said I thought bicycling was "horribly dangerous"? pnwmom Jul 2012 #100

It's an odd logical fallacy that the OP appears to be trying out. HuckleB Jul 2012 #102

One does not wear safety gear when not engaged in dangerous activities.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #106

Oh brother. HuckleB Jul 2012 #109

Do you wear safety gear when on your couch watching TV? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #111

Your post has nothing to do with whether or not it's smart to wear a cycling helmet. HuckleB Jul 2012 #124

My point is about perceptions of danger.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #127

You have an anecdotal theory, but nothing but your own definitions and anecdotes to support it. HuckleB Jul 2012 #130

I've presented more evidence in this thread than you have.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #132

Bzzzzzt. Wrong. HuckleB Jul 2012 #134

One of my kids' teachers fell off a bike and suffered a serious head injury pnwmom Jul 2012 #114

Smart people exercising reasonable caution can still get seriously hurt on in a car.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #116

Maybe bicyclists wouldn't need helmets if they had front and side airbags? pnwmom Jul 2012 #118

Which airbags only work at the moment of first impact.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #119

So do you personally wear helmets in cars? pnwmom Jul 2012 #120

We were talking mandatory safety gear, at the moment helmets are not mandatory in cars.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #121

"Old habits die hard" probably applies here. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #126

I bet I've worn protective headgear at least an order of magnitude more hours than you.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #128

I bet you have, too. Maybe we can agree on this: pnwmom Jul 2012 #129

The psychology of safety devices is interesting.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #136

The Dutch have many factors most American places do not share, first being universal awareness Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #151

Helmets are not mandatory for adults where I live either.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #152

Exactly. HuckleB Jul 2012 #125

Hmm.. And yet when I proposed mandatory helmets in cars a couple of weeks ago as a safety measure.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #104

If it's any consolation I'm on your side. Edweird Jul 2012 #67

OK... LadyHawkAZ Jul 2012 #68

I'm with you Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #69

The RKBA crowd is used to being vilified, and comes to threads well prepared ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #71

Hogwash. HuckleB Jul 2012 #103

I was referring to DU ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #142

always at the ready tiny elvis Jul 2012 #108

In my town -- CokeMachine Jul 2012 #88

That's one look. HuckleB Jul 2012 #105

Thanks -- CokeMachine Jul 2012 #113

Well, one answer is better infrastructure. HuckleB Jul 2012 #131

I agree about the infrastructure. CokeMachine Jul 2012 #145

One group is required by law to ride in the street with the cars.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #115

I don't have those numbers CokeMachine Jul 2012 #144

I see your point and understand your concerns.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #146

I understand -- CokeMachine Jul 2012 #147

I walk to work, and many other places. I also cycle and drive an automobile. HuckleB Jul 2012 #96

DU has a very large, very vocal anti-bike faction. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #133

I don't think it's that large. HuckleB Jul 2012 #135

I haven't noticed that, but will take your word for it ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #143

Not RW, just anti-spandex taterguy Jul 2012 #149