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Orsino

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16. It will depend on how big the majority is...

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:49 PM

Jan 2018

...and on how willing the Dems are to be seen as the party who leaps at impeachment the instant they can.

I am resigned to hearing from one or more Dem leaders this year that impeachment is off the table, as they have done before. That may be a necessary fig leaf, and I certainly hope that Mueller's investigation won't be quashed, but impeachment is and will remain a last resort in a system of checks and balances that is otherwise demonstrably broken.

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Even if Trump is blatantly ignoring the Russia sanctions law, theres not a lot Congress can do [View all] ehrnst Jan 2018 OP

Congress can impeach him for obstruction of justice and abuse of power YessirAtsaFact Jan 2018 #1

You think that a GOP congress is going to do that? You have to have a majority to do that. ehrnst Jan 2018 #2

I said they can-I didnt say they will YessirAtsaFact Jan 2018 #3

Democrats *can* impeach him? I don't think you understand what is required to impeach... ehrnst Jan 2018 #6

The OP is talking about Congress, not just Democrats YessirAtsaFact Jan 2018 #10

That's the Constitutional remedy for this sort of thing. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #11

That would require GOP to get on board if they are the majority, wouldn't it? ehrnst Jan 2018 #14

Not bloody likely. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #20

OK, then without the GOP onboard, there isn't a constitutional remedy no matter how many ehrnst Jan 2018 #28

At Least All Dems Should Be in Front Of Microphones & ..... global1 Jan 2018 #25

You mean like Schumer? And McCaskill? And Schiff? ehrnst Jan 2018 #29

You mean like this? ehrnst Jan 2018 #34

I see Dems in front of mikes every day mcar Jan 2018 #43

Yeah, "not a lot Congress can do" is BS. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #42

But if it is done as a quid pro quo... kentuck Jan 2018 #4

What would be done as a quid pro quo? ehrnst Jan 2018 #8

This is what the whole Russian investigation is about... kentuck Jan 2018 #18

From the article: ehrnst Jan 2018 #21

oh man i disagree here bluestarone Jan 2018 #5

Please list their options. Plenty of space below. ehrnst Jan 2018 #12

onlyn 2 that i care about bluestarone Jan 2018 #17

Again, you think that the GOP is going to impeach? They are the majority. ehrnst Jan 2018 #22

again i said COULD bluestarone Jan 2018 #24

You "could" what? ehrnst Jan 2018 #30

It can be the eighty-eighth article of impeachment... Orsino Jan 2018 #7

You mean when we have a majority? ehrnst Jan 2018 #9

Hell, I wouldn't hold my breath... Orsino Jan 2018 #13

Why? Do you think Dems won't use their majority? ehrnst Jan 2018 #15

It will depend on how big the majority is... Orsino Jan 2018 #16

You think Dem leaders won't work to make Trump accountable if they are the majority? ehrnst Jan 2018 #26

I recommended aginst holding one's breath. Orsino Jan 2018 #32

"By definition a slow process." ehrnst Jan 2018 #33

My revenge fantasies mostly key on criminal proceedings. Orsino Jan 2018 #35

Oh, I have some revenge fantasies. ehrnst Jan 2018 #36

Working to make Trump accountable mcar Jan 2018 #44

This Is Just Another Instance Where We Let Trump Off The Hook.... global1 Jan 2018 #19

How have we "let Trump off the hook?" What was available to get him "on the hook?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #27

Some people need visuals. brer cat Jan 2018 #23

Yes, that would be completely different. ehrnst Jan 2018 #31

More like "not a lot Congress *wants* to do about it. no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #37

The norms are gone, folks. The mad Captain Queeg is at the helm procon Jan 2018 #38

The Dems could run this year on this issue, and they will Johonny Jan 2018 #39

Let's all work our ass off to retake the House and then the Senate. Ligyron Jan 2018 #40

Hasn't McConnell taken away Ds ability to place holds on judicial noms? mcar Jan 2018 #41