endless frustration because they never manage to accomplish either? 
And of course there are the agents who come wherever malcontents gather to fan their flames.
As for their not liking Joe, they apparently didn't need a WaPo poll to tell them what was happening when the names of nonradical Sanders' DUers started showing up in those "Oh, Joe!" threads.
Enough to turn me into a smiling Joe accepter if not fan. Another decade of developing some "chops" would be great. But looking at his accelerated resume building trajectory, who doesn't suspect he has to be looking squarely at 2020? If another Democrat won in 2020 and 2024, 2028 of course would probably see a Republican president, and likely 2032, which would bring us to 2036, 18 years down the road. 2020.
Bet Kamala Harris isn't smiling, but wouldn't her mature toughness look good alongside his boyish "Irishness" as his fans here are calling it?
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