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beachbum bob

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30. there are millions of americans who see nothing from the taxcut, hopefully they all vote

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:33 PM

Feb 2018

in Nov 2018. Lots of tax payers that have no kids....and with a number of deductions eliminated, many will actually see their taxes go up
besides, the issue with many democrats is they believe that presenting actual facts and reasoned debate, the otherside is going to say oh ya, you are right.

THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, ever

One of issues democrats must focus on is freedom and use conservative tactics against them...

freedom for states to pass laws for individual rights whatever they may be
freedom from oppressive govt spying and intrusion into your personal life
freedom to express your self

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Why doesn't our side know how to frame a debate? [View all] louis c Feb 2018 OP

Because Democrats focus more on policies and Repubs focus more on politics. kentuck Feb 2018 #1

Republican politics depends today 100% on lies and dirty tricks. Hortensis Feb 2018 #12

I've wondered that, too! Why don't they hire George Lakoff TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #2

That's another issue I agree with you on... louis c Feb 2018 #3

Maybe they don't agree with him? treestar Feb 2018 #15

It doesn't have to be Lakoff - it can be anybody TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #24

Why are you calling them that? treestar Feb 2018 #35

Another bash Democrats thread on DU mcar Feb 2018 #4

How is this bashing? louis c Feb 2018 #8

No questions, please. Just march in lockstep writerJT Feb 2018 #11

It is not new at all treestar Feb 2018 #14

I post here. I have a day job that has to do with messaging louis c Feb 2018 #17

I agree with all you've said. Democratic messaging is a problem! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #27

We are on the side of the angels... louis c Feb 2018 #28

Yes, it needs IMO to be short crisp messaging. I recall when Kerry was running, his messaging was RKP5637 Feb 2018 #31

You're better off writing the DNC LeftInTX Feb 2018 #34

Maybe that's their problem louis c Feb 2018 #36

Republicans lie, mountain grammy Feb 2018 #5

A lie gets out of bed and circles the world TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #25

Which Democrats are you talking about? ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #6

DNC (NT) louis c Feb 2018 #9

The Democrats appear awful on tv when ever i see them. They come across as weak and timid. Mr. Sparkle Feb 2018 #7

Because what the republicans do is catapult the propaganda, and that's all it is is shraby Feb 2018 #10

This Orrex Feb 2018 #23

We always see this said treestar Feb 2018 #13

We should be framing the debate now. louis c Feb 2018 #21

Messaging is more than ads. Squinch Feb 2018 #37

Well if you are going to criticize it treestar Feb 2018 #38

Right. Because if I can't fix this national problem all by myself, then it just isn't fixable. Squinch Feb 2018 #45

We don't use Russian Bots as well uponit7771 Feb 2018 #16

Oh goody! Let's bash Democrats! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #18

or wag fingers instead of actually addressing a deficiency shanny Feb 2018 #26

Ha! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #40

K&R. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #19

We don't have a 24/7 'news' channel devoted to us crazycatlady Feb 2018 #20

Good points oberliner Feb 2018 #22

Yes. It is undeniable that we suck at messaging Squinch Feb 2018 #29

there are millions of americans who see nothing from the taxcut, hopefully they all vote beachbum bob Feb 2018 #30

The AD is not just aimed at people with children louis c Feb 2018 #32

Because of the one, top priority, Democratic moral principle... Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #33

nonsense. The one, top priority is "moral principle" Hamlette Feb 2018 #47

Running TV ads costs money. betsuni Feb 2018 #39

What do you mean, "our side"? kentuck Feb 2018 #41

Think of it in military terms louis c Feb 2018 #42

But "our side" is a divisive term. kentuck Feb 2018 #43

Trumpism is the enemy of America louis c Feb 2018 #44

It also comes from your retirement - next they will loot SS and Medicare. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #46

Dems are terrible at messaging. Absolutely terrible. Yavin4 Feb 2018 #48