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Sophia4

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126. FYI, having lived in Europe for years, I will tell you that their single payer

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 01:17 PM

Feb 2018

insurance is cheaper than ours. (I've posted that so many times I don't want to do it again, so please check Google and Wikipedia.)

And they pay for it the same way we do. Those who can afford to pay, pay. Only there, it's cheaper so for less money, those who can afford to pay, pay not only for their own insurance but for those of their less affluent brothers and sisters, fellow countrymen and women.

And the money comes right out of their paychecks, just like Social Security and Medicare payments do.

And we should do the same. There are lots of advantages to consolidating medical groups under non-profits and providing better coordinated healthcare. A lot of the money we spend on healthcare goes to cover the administrative costs of our health insurance companies to say nothing of their profits. We don't need those companies. We need well organized, good, effective healthcare.

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Gosh Joe Kennedy is young. And really good. Think people will rally? [View all] nolabear Jan 2018 OP

He looks so like Bobby-- dawg day Jan 2018 #1

Stunning isnt it? nolabear Jan 2018 #3

I think he looks like Ted. marybourg Jan 2018 #9

He looks very much like his dad, except for the red hair DFW Jan 2018 #29

I love his wavy red hair. His Irish ancestry really shows. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #71

It was really really refreshing!!! He's great!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #39

Great speech EricMaundry Jan 2018 #2

He did a great job, but I don't know where he stands on a lot of issues. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #4

There it is. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #52

I will. I think it will become clear over time. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #54

Uh huh. What if he isnt in favor of it now, says we have to get total control of the government Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #57

I don't know. Single payer is a really big issue for me. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #60

So no, you will NOT commit to vote Democratic Party no matter what, got it. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #61

I vote Democratic. I am a life-long Democrat. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #66

That is not what you said, I asked if he was your congressperson and so on, read it again please. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #68

I voted for my congressman but I don't think he was for single payer. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #83

What is your problem? mountain grammy Jan 2018 #84

Unless they disagree with Bernie on how to get to Universal Health Care. ehrnst Jan 2018 #75

Sen. Sanders has never share with us how to actually get universal health...medicare for all will Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #96

DOUBLEPLUS THOUGHTCRIME!! ehrnst Jan 2018 #99

Lol. Agree. Hortensis Feb 2018 #137

We'll find out his stands on things. Safe to assume he adheres to the Kennedy views. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #72

So you won't vote for any Democrat that will vote for any universal health care ehrnst Jan 2018 #74

We have always known that people who support Sanders want him to run again even though he can't win Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #97

Well one thing is for sure, you will never get it from the pugs. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #95

You, Sophia say: sheshe2 Jan 2018 #112

All one needs do is read the Democratic Party platform mcar Jan 2018 #114

True dat, mcar. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #115

It doesn't make any difference what is in the platform. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #122

It doesn't? mcar Feb 2018 #123

It matters to activists in the Party, but not to ordinary voters who don't read it Sophia4 Feb 2018 #124

I agree with you. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #121

So you want to return to the time democrats focused more on economic issues? GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #117

Trump won on racism and on economic issues. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #120

Single payer health care huh? How do you feel about maintaining democracy? XRubicon Jan 2018 #110

+1000 sheshe2 Jan 2018 #113

Let's put it this way. If the choice is between someone who supports Sophia4 Feb 2018 #128

and democracy? XRubicon Feb 2018 #129

He's def got the Likeability and trust thing going on ehrnst Jan 2018 #56

Yeah, sure does. My first reaction to him is NOT what about him can I find I dont like. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #65

I think he needs more of a resume of legislative success ehrnst Jan 2018 #80

The same was said about Obama...we can't wait. We need to win...if he can do it...having followed Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #98

People are certainly liking what he says. brer cat Jan 2018 #118

Let me also say, we need to run on the ACA...that is understood and liked by people. It can't Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #106

What a speech. TomSlick Jan 2018 #5

For those without handy access to a Bible (or who can be bothered to look it up!) ;-) Staph Jan 2018 #10

The upside of growing up in Sunday School. TomSlick Jan 2018 #11

I can never pull an appropriate scripture when needed. Staph Jan 2018 #12

"Jesus wept" covers a lot of what the GOP does these days Retrograde Feb 2018 #133

Shouldn't he reference 2 Timothies? Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #13

Nope. TomSlick Jan 2018 #15

He just launched his 2020 campaign tonight. bathroommonkey76 Jan 2018 #6

I actually hope not... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #14

Why? Give the GOP more time to demonize him. No, he is old enough...time to pass the mantle on to Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #23

He is a little young. 4 yrs younger than JFK & Bobby when they ran. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #73

He will do...tire of old folks running. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #100

Loved his play on "tear down this wall." Tatiana Jan 2018 #7

He's 37 now, but he does have a boyish face. nt procon Jan 2018 #8

Yeah, he has the 'it factor', evokes RFK, idealistic, radius777 Jan 2018 #16

He reminds me of Obama. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #24

I agree. He's a little green, still. But he has "it." Is 2020 too soon? Is he tough enough? nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #76

He's a couple of years younger than Donnie Jr. and Ivanka, who have no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #17

The Democratic Party would be nowhere without African-American women oberliner Jan 2018 #18

I find your remarks somewhat troubling...maybe we should just select the best candidate who can win. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #19

I understand and respect where you are coming from oberliner Jan 2018 #42

And I respect where you are coming from. I do see you were right about the Franken debacle. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #50

Not really a good try there. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #40

I recognize that many folks don't agree with me on this oberliner Jan 2018 #43

I think we should win GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #116

I don't think we should choose someone based on race or gender. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #77

That depends NCDem777 Jan 2018 #20

He has a "D" next to his name, should he win a primary, he will be supported. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

By most Dems sure NCDem777 Jan 2018 #26

I can't fathom why ANYONE would vote third party after the SammyWinstonJack Jan 2018 #34

Why risk it? NCDem777 Jan 2018 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2018 #46

I see - another damned litmus test for a candidate. The you disparage moderates. tonyt53 Jan 2018 #59

FYI, having lived in Europe for years, I will tell you that their single payer Sophia4 Feb 2018 #126

But you fail to tell how it would be paid for in the US. Easy to say what you did. tonyt53 Feb 2018 #130

It would be handled the same way Medicare is handled. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #134

Ah, you really do not have any idea about how it would be implemented. tonyt53 Feb 2018 #135

We have thousands upon thousands managing our current healthcare system. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #136

Amen. shanny Jan 2018 #85

What I hear when I hear things like this... Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #90

While that reality may be true in districts Presidency is a different matter NCDem777 Jan 2018 #91

Before Trump, the extreme left or right could not win the Presidency. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #93

You are kidding yourself...the country is center left at best. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #105

+1 leftstreet Jan 2018 #92

Oh please stop...I am telling you Sen. Sander will not win a primary. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #104

We won't get universal healthcare without a super majority...we can get a public option... Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #108

Some will. They have a different purpose. As Sarandon said. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #78

a highly influential voice, to be sure shanny Jan 2018 #86

That's not helpful. I don't believe in burn it all down to fix it. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2018 #88

He is the sort of candidate who will be very attractive to independents...like Pres. Obama. And Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #51

But he is against universal healthcare NCDem777 Jan 2018 #53

What makes you think he opposes the Democratic Platform on this? ehrnst Jan 2018 #67

No he is not...Sanders and Conyers give too few details...he is concerned with the how and why. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #102

After the 2016 election, anyone who would even consider a 3rd Party vote mcar Jan 2018 #62

Please tell me you are not labeling him a war hawk. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #89

not by me. I won't be voting for a prohibitionist. Hopefully he doesn't run for president rollin74 Jan 2018 #63

What Democrat isn't for Universal Health Care- esp a Kennedy? ehrnst Jan 2018 #64

I like him a great deal. I think many will back him because he radiate sincerity and decency...much Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #21

High praise from Biden: demmiblue Jan 2018 #25

Biden - Kennedy 2020? Moostache Jan 2018 #82

He's got that "it" factor that I haven't seen since the 2004 Obama speech. Vinca Jan 2018 #27

Sure does. LisaL Jan 2018 #30

My just turned 18 year old daughter got all smiles when she saw him.... Pachamama Jan 2018 #35

All depends on how he moves forward... NCTraveler Jan 2018 #28

One thing came to mind DFW Jan 2018 #31

+1000 Pachamama Jan 2018 #33

We've got some talented women in the House and Senate. We need a woman in the WH. CTyankee Feb 2018 #138

What we NEED in the White House is the best Democrat we can come up with DFW Feb 2018 #139

Don't you find it a bit strange that a woman hasn't been deemed "best Democrat" with the exception CTyankee Feb 2018 #141

If one looks at who has actually mounted a serious try for the nomination, then no, I don't. DFW Feb 2018 #142

I'm wondering if it will be a woman who graduated from one of the 5 isister schools... CTyankee Feb 2018 #143

We rallied for Jon Ossoff in Georgia 6 greymattermom Jan 2018 #32

Could be a doppelgnger to Sam Heughan tavernier Jan 2018 #36

Sam Heughan - yes I can see the resemblance FakeNoose Jan 2018 #44

Too young, in my opinion. alarimer Jan 2018 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2018 #47

In three years he will be 40. Demtexan Jan 2018 #41

He needs to refresh his reefer madness attitude on marijuana before I would ever consider voting tritsofme Jan 2018 #45

He's STILL against marijuana legalization? leftstreet Jan 2018 #49

me too. I will NOT ever vote for him until he changes his tune on wanting to criminalize cannabis rollin74 Jan 2018 #58

So you would vote against him if running in the general GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #119

I wont vote for a republican nor will I vote for Kennedy rollin74 Feb 2018 #131

So let me get this straight... GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #132

You think electing a Republican will help the cause? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #109

I don't think a candidate with such retrograde positions on marijujana is at all viable tritsofme Jan 2018 #111

I hope so. He is just like his father.....Just hope the secret service stays on top of him. onecent Jan 2018 #48

I liked the text of his speech - but NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #55

Same. I didnt see the it factor others did. I see that in Kamala, she is formidable. bettyellen Jan 2018 #81

He's 37. I'm watching his speech on Youtube right now. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #69

He is stunning and such a breath of fresh air. Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #70

I'm definitely on the JPK train underthematrix Jan 2018 #79

Well I see TYT, New Republic, Slate and the Justice Dems have been working overtime Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #87

Yep. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #94

i like him a lot..let him bake a little longer to get done. samnsara Jan 2018 #101

he needs to be tested in swing states AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #103

Jason Johnson was pretty dismissive on Wallace's DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #107

I have to add that I was impressed when he spoke Spanish. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #125

Yes, I think so. honest.abe Feb 2018 #127

Yes BlueDog22 Feb 2018 #140