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Downtown Hound

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30. So now we get to pass all kinds of fascist, unconstitutional shit because to not do so
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:34 PM
Jan 2012

would be tantamount to not supporting the troops? Well now, ain't that just a peachy little excuse that the warmongers can now use anytime they want to pull some bullshit like this.

Recess Appointments bonnarati Jan 2012 #1
Of course not. RC Jan 2012 #3
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Oops. Robb Jan 2012 #67
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Actually the Dems did do it once or twice. TheWraith Jan 2012 #16
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Alito should have been fillibustered no matter the cost. yourout Jan 2012 #27
There can NOT be any recess appointments made, because Congress is NOT in recess Tx4obama Jan 2012 #18
he doesnt want to look weak. like bill clinton who let a man be roguevalley Jan 2012 #26
I'm sure defunding the troops would have went over great with voters. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #2
Somehow the wars would continue as usual. RC Jan 2012 #4
Do you have a point? MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #6
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Yeah, and I made it. RC Jan 2012 #13
Defunding the troops ended the war in Vietnam. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #10
No troops were defunded. former9thward Jan 2012 #23
So now we get to pass all kinds of fascist, unconstitutional shit because to not do so Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #30
Brilliant. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #31
It would have left our troops without pay until Congress would override his veto boxman15 Jan 2012 #7
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Isn't that what he did with the signing statement? boxman15 Jan 2012 #12
"Isn't that what he did with the signing statement?" Um, no. It's not. Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #33
I wish you were right. boxman15 Jan 2012 #38
You know, I've heard all this shit before Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #59
A "real" leader would raise, and possibly go "all-in" PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #15
I could not have said it better Oilwellian Jan 2012 #17
Good point, especially since the signing statement hands detainee status to the Sec of Defense. sad sally Jan 2012 #24
Wow. I think I need a cigarette after reading your post. Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #29
That is fucking bullshit. boxman15 Jan 2012 #40
The idea that vetoing the bill would have HANDED 2012 to the Republicans is a pretty tenuous one MNBrewer Jan 2012 #47
This action BY CONGRESS is inexplicable and unforgivable, no? What's the hidden backstory here? proverbialwisdom Jan 2012 #50
As MNBrewer pointed out Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #60
Very well said. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #43
I for one refuse to be held hostage by this fascist crap that we always have to appear to support Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #34
Why would letting troops go without pay until Congress overrides a symbolic veto do any good? boxman15 Jan 2012 #41
The Republicans are coming, the Republicans are coming!!! A Simple Game Jan 2012 #44
Do you REALLY think the troops would have gone without pay? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #49
Again, you state it as fact that a veto would hand the presidency to the GOP Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #61
No, it wouldn't. Bush pulled this garbage also. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #58
I wonder what kind of other vile shit will be stuffed in a future Defense bill that neverforget Jan 2012 #14
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Even if Pres Obama would have vetoed it, an override by Congress would have been likely Tx4obama Jan 2012 #19
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Force their hand. mmonk Jan 2012 #25
Not likely at all. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #51
I'm sorry to say.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #28
Man, forget it... you'll never get through. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #32
Worse, it will be supported no matter what is in it and anything except going off the TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #35
I agree Remember Me Jan 2012 #36
I disagree. Vetoing would have been political suicide. Avalux Jan 2012 #37
Vetoing would have been a huge gift to whoever the Repug nominee will be, that's for sure. stevenleser Jan 2012 #39
So instead of just caving to a Republican house of representatives, A Simple Game Jan 2012 #46
Actually it's caving to the will of the governed. stevenleser Jan 2012 #48
When did the governed weigh in on this? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #52
You mean like everytime defunding the troops gets brought up, or election time? Besides those times? stevenleser Jan 2012 #56
People who are anti-war should STFU because the hysterical majority can be stampeded into war? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #57
Where do you get all the hay for the straw men you constantly erect? No one said that. stevenleser Jan 2012 #62
Your straw man is that Obama's veto would have "handed" the 2012 election to the GOP MNBrewer Jan 2012 #66
Wow, that spin must have made you dizzy. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #54
No spin, it is what I have been saying all along. Read my first post in this thread. stevenleser Jan 2012 #55
So it's not spin because you say it? A Simple Game Jan 2012 #63
It's not spin at the third or fourth comment if you have been saying it all along... stevenleser Jan 2012 #64
You either don't know the definition of spin or A Simple Game Jan 2012 #65
he did the politically expedient thing paulk Jan 2012 #42
+1 MNBrewer Jan 2012 #53
hope Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #45
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