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In reply to the discussion: Obama should never have signed the NDAA into law, signing statements or not. [View all]Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)30. So now we get to pass all kinds of fascist, unconstitutional shit because to not do so
would be tantamount to not supporting the troops? Well now, ain't that just a peachy little excuse that the warmongers can now use anytime they want to pull some bullshit like this.
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Obama should never have signed the NDAA into law, signing statements or not. [View all]
mmonk
Jan 2012
OP
There can NOT be any recess appointments made, because Congress is NOT in recess
Tx4obama
Jan 2012
#18
So now we get to pass all kinds of fascist, unconstitutional shit because to not do so
Downtown Hound
Jan 2012
#30
It would have left our troops without pay until Congress would override his veto
boxman15
Jan 2012
#7
Good point, especially since the signing statement hands detainee status to the Sec of Defense.
sad sally
Jan 2012
#24
The idea that vetoing the bill would have HANDED 2012 to the Republicans is a pretty tenuous one
MNBrewer
Jan 2012
#47
This action BY CONGRESS is inexplicable and unforgivable, no? What's the hidden backstory here?
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2012
#50
I for one refuse to be held hostage by this fascist crap that we always have to appear to support
Downtown Hound
Jan 2012
#34
Why would letting troops go without pay until Congress overrides a symbolic veto do any good?
boxman15
Jan 2012
#41
Again, you state it as fact that a veto would hand the presidency to the GOP
Downtown Hound
Jan 2012
#61
I wonder what kind of other vile shit will be stuffed in a future Defense bill that
neverforget
Jan 2012
#14
Even if Pres Obama would have vetoed it, an override by Congress would have been likely
Tx4obama
Jan 2012
#19
Worse, it will be supported no matter what is in it and anything except going off the
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#35
Vetoing would have been a huge gift to whoever the Repug nominee will be, that's for sure.
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#39
You mean like everytime defunding the troops gets brought up, or election time? Besides those times?
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#56
People who are anti-war should STFU because the hysterical majority can be stampeded into war?
MNBrewer
Jan 2012
#57
Where do you get all the hay for the straw men you constantly erect? No one said that.
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#62
Your straw man is that Obama's veto would have "handed" the 2012 election to the GOP
MNBrewer
Jan 2012
#66
No spin, it is what I have been saying all along. Read my first post in this thread.
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#55
It's not spin at the third or fourth comment if you have been saying it all along...
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#64