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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Poison polls is a classic trolling technique, tho.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:09 PM
Feb 2018

Ignoring and letting drop is best, but sadly, the more outrageous and frightening, the more commentary they tend to generate.

Also sadly, major media often knowingly use sensationally bad polls as excuses to create fake drama and controversy, so appearance in "mainstream" sources in itself means nothing.

I suggest when ignoring won't work challenging strongly, and even considering whether a poll should be alerted on. Most of us have seen so many by now that we know when to suspect then. But trying to think of, like, when polls reflecting badly on Democrats are

1. Outliers, contradicting the body of respected polls.
2. Explained to be biased and unreliable by experts.
3. Dismissed as invalid, not listed, not accepted for averaging by even one poll aggregator.
4. Shown to come from or be pushed by hostile sources.
5. Not published by known reliable pollsters, i.e., obscure sources.

There are no doubt other signs too, but poll that meets even one of them is very likely to be confirmed by others. We had a blizzard of them in 2016.

Note that outlier polls used in those UCLA analyses that predicted Trump's win and contradicted almost all others would not meet these criteria. They were seriously discussed by experts, who didn't know what to make of them but did not dismiss the source.

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Meh, ignore them and let them drop... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #1
We should not pay attention to ANY polls! redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #2
I like that even better. Thanks. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
Poison polls is a classic trolling technique, tho. Hortensis Feb 2018 #20
Excellent post ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #21
Kellyanne Conway owns some polling company. Enough said. BSdetect Feb 2018 #4
Better idea: Find out about the poll's source and whether it's an outlier. highplainsdem Feb 2018 #5
Agian the truth is spoken. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #6
AAAHHH - very good ER -finally someone steps up - asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #7
I don't need a damn poll to tell me ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #8
Rasmussen was right on the money in 2016, Hillary by 2% 4139 Feb 2018 #9
They predicted Hillary would win by 3 million votes? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #10
Hillary won by 2.1%, Rasmussen was off by 0.1% 4139 Feb 2018 #11
They have a clear bias, it is well known Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #12
They always adjust their numbers right before election Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #14
Thanks for that ! ! ! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #15
What exactly are you "just sayin"? lapucelle Feb 2018 #22
Im not really into calls to denounce things Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #13
Where do you stand on Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #16
Will denounce it Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #17
twitter is god. everything on twitter is 100% true. worship twitter nt msongs Feb 2018 #18
Especially if said tweets attack Hillary or similar other democrats. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #19
Poll: 100% of Americans think Trump is Greatestest President Ever struggle4progress Feb 2018 #23
So exactly who is "reliable"? former9thward Feb 2018 #24
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