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mopinko

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56. this much volatility will amp it up.

Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:33 PM

Feb 2018

i wish i could speak more factually about it. my ex helped develop it. but i only know that it is basically just betting on which way the market is gonna go. you can bet either way. so when things start going wonky, they go buy a lottery ticket.

i suspect the big thing is the announcement of how much we are going to borrowing. that and increases in average wages, driven by a lot of minimum wage increases that went into effect on jan 1.
and clearly interest rates can only go up.

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Fox business tounge tide Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2018 #1

boom Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #2

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Only if Powell puts Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #4

Well, I don't see that happening. AJT Feb 2018 #5

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At 24450 it's looking like a crash TNLib Feb 2018 #54

Notice the Market Markers are Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #63

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Yeah...so? A HERETIC I AM Feb 2018 #71

I am inclined to agree with you. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #51

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Yup,going to get real Ugly Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #100

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That should be stapled to his head. dchill Feb 2018 #106

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Sooooo....you sold on Friday? A HERETIC I AM Feb 2018 #24

No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #28

Well good! A HERETIC I AM Feb 2018 #46

Good point to make. Kind also. :) Hortensis Feb 2018 #57

Don't sell! I made that mistake years ago..... Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #87

I'm scared to look... CanonRay Feb 2018 #66

White House claims to be concerned Flipz Chipz Feb 2018 #10

...or Hillary, or Schiff, or Pelosi... Still In Wisconsin Feb 2018 #79

Lock her up! Mira Feb 2018 #96

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totally self-serving comment- go vix. mopinko Feb 2018 #41

Point taken. What happened at 12 pm ET to drive it this fast in 3 hrs? Wwcd Feb 2018 #50

this much volatility will amp it up. mopinko Feb 2018 #56

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Down 610 bearsfootball516 Feb 2018 #12

Glad I had an order in to cash in all my stock at the opening bell today Generic Brad Feb 2018 #13

+ Smart call Wwcd Feb 2018 #17

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Works for me... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #47

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May need more than that now malaise Feb 2018 #38

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Who else?--Obama & Clinton.... lastlib Feb 2018 #95

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Is this the biggest percentage drop ever? PearliePoo2 Feb 2018 #21

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Percentages are all that matters; points are relative to the total market. 7962 Feb 2018 #84

Lol. Cuz you hate Trump. 🤔 Wwcd Feb 2018 #93

I agree about using percentages vs. points. But there are some absolute values that are good - erronis Feb 2018 #114

I'm trusting you simply PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #55

Fundamentals appear strong? Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #22

Curbs wont apply until the S&P drops 7% UpInArms Feb 2018 #23

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Here are all the numbers UpInArms Feb 2018 #26

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Dunno, but here is an interesting chart UpInArms Feb 2018 #48

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Ali Veshi pointing at -1,500 roscoeroscoe Feb 2018 #35

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Looks more dramatic because the numbers are so high to begin with. salin Feb 2018 #68

Oh, yeah - it was just the speed of that 3:00 drop that was interesting hatrack Feb 2018 #77

Eye popping indeed. Reminded me of W's market at its most volatile. salin Feb 2018 #88

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Volatility Index is over 63% Wednesdays Feb 2018 #39

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That's a good point. Wwcd Feb 2018 #64

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Hehehehehehe malaise Feb 2018 #98

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