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whathehell

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50. LOl back at you..

Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:35 AM

Feb 2018

The police & media do tend to treat black and white crowd "eruptions" differently, but it doesn't apply here, as it was not a "riot".

Riots occur when people are angry -- there was no anger here, it was a celebration, one that, unsurprisingly in a testosterone fueled environment, got out of hand a couple of times -- The same thing happens after soccer4 games in Europe.

Facts matter, and playing fast and loose with them only undermines the original argument.

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Black Lives Matter: Philadelphia Super Bowl Riots Reaction Glaring Example of White Privilege [View all] malaise Feb 2018 OP

I was thinking the exact same thing as the news and photos CatWoman Feb 2018 #1

I wish white leaders would speak out about the destruction in their community and the cultural WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #2

The notion that the crowds in Philadelphia were exclusively one race or another is ridiculous jberryhill Feb 2018 #23

Oh, of course the crowds weren't 100 percent white. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #24

"Oh if course the crowds weren't 100 percent white".. whathehell Feb 2018 #30

LOL. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #32

LOl back at you.. whathehell Feb 2018 #50

When black folk run amok, damage property, it's a "riot." When white folk do it, it's "homecoming." EffieBlack Feb 2018 #97

I'm sorry, but like some others here, I don't whathehell Feb 2018 #115

RIOT is riot. Nonsense to "happy riot." BUT 100,000 people Hortensis Feb 2018 #119

I sure as hell don't know who called it a "happy riot" whathehell Feb 2018 #123

Look up thread and chill. Sorry, did not mean a personal insult. Hortensis Feb 2018 #130

I'd say it's you who should have done that first. whathehell Feb 2018 #131

turned over cars set fires smashed Macys windows ...what makes a riot then??Anger ?so every protest? lunasun Feb 2018 #105

Where are you getting cars from jberryhill Feb 2018 #112

As explained, whathehell Feb 2018 #116

and that pic doesn't show rioting... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #58

Yes jberryhill Feb 2018 #67

no... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #80

Yeah, as if jberryhill Feb 2018 #81

This is Philly jberryhill Feb 2018 #82

Yes, see my #45 below. I think the BLM folks erred on this one. stevenleser Feb 2018 #47

The crowds were also "beyond control" RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #60

They were not "beyond control" jberryhill Feb 2018 #64

Youre missing my point RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #69

And you are missing the point that a unpermitted block party is different from a permitted one jberryhill Feb 2018 #73

I I guess the difference is... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #36

Do these look like Happy Whites to you? jberryhill Feb 2018 #49

no, but they don't look like they are rioting either.... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #56

Yes, and I've posted them in this thread jberryhill Feb 2018 #59

I don't any fires or overturned cars in that photo tenderfoot Feb 2018 #65

How many cars were overturned, in your estimation? jberryhill Feb 2018 #66

Oooh look there's a GIRL on the awning! tenderfoot Feb 2018 #68

I do not see a girl jberryhill Feb 2018 #83

I see one right there tenderfoot Feb 2018 #84

My guess is that she is probably an adult jberryhill Feb 2018 #86

+1 lunasun Feb 2018 #107

What do you see in this video? jberryhill Feb 2018 #113

+++++++++++ pangaia Feb 2018 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author tblue37 Feb 2018 #63

Least surprising news this week genxlib Feb 2018 #3

yep. salin Feb 2018 #4

There were no riots in Philadelphia Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #5

Flipping cars, breaking storefronts and windows, trashing traffic lights, crowds of drunks eating WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #7

Wait it was done by white people? Totally just a victory celebration! /sarc ExciteBike66 Feb 2018 #8

You are exaggerating jberryhill Feb 2018 #9

Bottles thrown at cops, the volume of calls overwhelming response, fires... WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #13

Philadelphia is a racially diverse city jberryhill Feb 2018 #15

No, it's OK, I get it. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #17

What makes you think the crowds were somehow "white"? jberryhill Feb 2018 #22

Wow, you are on some racist shit. Black people cant be football fans? MadDAsHell Feb 2018 #96

Youll love this video jberryhill Feb 2018 #111

Community? I would bet the owner and employees of that store are not feeling a great sense of Tipperary Feb 2018 #129

"The relative degree of general mayhem was lower than a normal night in Philadelphia." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #27

Thank you.... Exaggerating and/or distorting facts whathehell Feb 2018 #31

Turning over cars? Starting fires? Damaging property? cwydro Feb 2018 #11

How many cars jberryhill Feb 2018 #14

I call it illegal behavior but not indicative of a "riot" when it concerns only 4 or 5 people out whathehell Feb 2018 #124

The other weird thing is how people outside of Philly somehow think the crowds were all white jberryhill Feb 2018 #12

And the desire to move the narrative away from the OPs point as quickly as possible LanternWaste Feb 2018 #34

The point being what? jberryhill Feb 2018 #35

Thank you. whathehell Feb 2018 #126

Were you at this Sunoco? oberliner Feb 2018 #37

A RACE RIOT! jberryhill Feb 2018 #87

Thank you..Always helpful to hear from those actually present. whathehell Feb 2018 #54

I made a comment on a Matty Iglesias tweet about how I was expecting to see octoberlib Feb 2018 #6

White people? oberliner Feb 2018 #38

They are all morons and need to be arrested MichMan Feb 2018 #10

No one rioted in Athens when UGA won the SEC and Rose Bowl. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #16

Nah, Males in Europe riot regularly after soccer games.. whathehell Feb 2018 #125

Exactly right mcar Feb 2018 #18

I remember that - malaise Feb 2018 #20

Yes mcar Feb 2018 #21

The Philly incident was definitely not Katrina. whathehell Feb 2018 #33

No big surprise, we all know the double standard by now. Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #19

I cant believe the denial I am reading in this thread, no wait, I can, sigh. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #76

Unbelievable, isn't it? EffieBlack Feb 2018 #98

This distinction has been noted repeatedly since the BLM movement started. Nitram Feb 2018 #25

Good point. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #26

Don't forget the tanks malaise Feb 2018 #28

How many women were tearing down lamp posts? I'd love to know. Bet there were none. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #29

Great point oberliner Feb 2018 #39

The lady at the top of this pole begs to differ jberryhill Feb 2018 #40

That's not really the kind of thing I was thinking of oberliner Feb 2018 #42

This "sort of thing" jberryhill Feb 2018 #44

And have a look at this one jberryhill Feb 2018 #57

I would usually be inclined to agree and do think this warrents a serious discussion randr Feb 2018 #41

Given the size of the crowds, things went well jberryhill Feb 2018 #43

Have you ever been to Philadelphia? Philadelphia has as many African Americans as white people stevenleser Feb 2018 #45

Philadelphia had a night of unity jberryhill Feb 2018 #52

I merely posted an article and asked for your thoughts n/t malaise Feb 2018 #53

Plenty of people from the suburbs were downtown IronLionZion Feb 2018 #94

I've been posting on fb since the win, that if they were black, they'd be dead. ancianita Feb 2018 #46

Exactly.. HipChick Feb 2018 #48

So no one in the streets that night was African American? RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #62

Doesn't diminish the facts of recent history or police double standards. ancianita Feb 2018 #72

Here's the thing that is missing from the discussion BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #77

It's not missing. It's not assumed either way. You are injecting 3 assumptions stevenleser Feb 2018 #108

Hi Steve! BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #120

Apparently, someone is bothered by a city demonstrating diverse unity in celebration jberryhill Feb 2018 #55

Has BLM said anything about the use of MLK to sell pick-up trucks in a TV ad? jalan48 Feb 2018 #61

Why should they? EffieBlack Feb 2018 #99

I thought they might be concerned about the co-opting of MLK's message by big business. jalan48 Feb 2018 #101

They can't, nor should they be expected to, comment on every single instance of screwed up sh!t that EffieBlack Feb 2018 #102

It's OK-I was just asking if they might have said something. jalan48 Feb 2018 #103

+++++ agree lunasun Feb 2018 #104

Co-opted from whom? Dr. Strange Feb 2018 #122

Wow-I didn't know this. I really can't believe it. jalan48 Feb 2018 #133

Yeah, it's a scene. Dr. Strange Feb 2018 #136

As a Philly resident BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #70

Amazing how many non-resident Philly experts have appeared jberryhill Feb 2018 #74

Actually BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #75

that gathering place was a quite a culmination of folks of many backgrounds! jberryhill Feb 2018 #79

Nobody celebrates diversity as much IronLionZion Feb 2018 #95

Ive been associated with people whove done plenty of bad things jberryhill Feb 2018 #110

You wouldn't like to be profiled and assumed to be guilty of something IronLionZion Feb 2018 #121

There are two types of protests in America Flo Mingo Feb 2018 #71

As an African American I get there's racism but we need voters to get rid of the current underthematrix Feb 2018 #78

Good post malaise Feb 2018 #92

My Thought Is RobinA Feb 2018 #85

Thanks malaise Feb 2018 #90

My thoughts: it's a stretch. malthaussen Feb 2018 #88

And The Fact That RobinA Feb 2018 #89

I participated in one such demonstration in 1974... malthaussen Feb 2018 #93

Thanks Mal malaise Feb 2018 #91

You're right - it's about the underlying reason for the demonstration, not the demonstration itself EffieBlack Feb 2018 #100

So if the people committing the sports disturbance were 95% black there would be no uponit7771 Feb 2018 #109

95% ? jberryhill Feb 2018 #114

I don't know short clip, is there an answer to my question? thx in advance uponit7771 Feb 2018 #117

It's a contra-factual and hypothetical question. malthaussen Feb 2018 #127

Then I'll take the answer as no, if the crowd was 95% black then they wouldn't get treated uponit7771 Feb 2018 #135

WHat you said. Nailed it. Nothing to add. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #106

Apparently it's worse to riot over real issues like injustice but Raine Feb 2018 #118

Good point malaise Feb 2018 #128

They weren't all white, but a majority of them were EffieBlack Feb 2018 #134

Agree malaise Feb 2018 #137

I'd bet dollars to donuts DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #132