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BumRushDaShow

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77. Here's the thing that is missing from the discussion

Tue Feb 6, 2018, 02:50 PM

Feb 2018

The assumption has been that all of the folks out there were city residents. In fact it should be obvious that there are fans of the team that not only live in the Philly suburbs in PA but who also live in South Jersey and in Delaware. So I expect quite a few had made the trek into the city to go to sports bars and restaurants - especially downtown...and to friends who live in the city and when the game was over they all poured out.... and as the night wore on others made the trip into the city to celebrate. The trains were running frequently (regional rail, subway, el) in anticipation.

So when that happens, whatever number of blacks were out there, were diluted (and dwarfed) by both city and suburban whites. And of course there were hundreds of thousands (including myself) who were enjoying the game at home and were not out in the streets at all!

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Black Lives Matter: Philadelphia Super Bowl Riots Reaction Glaring Example of White Privilege [View all] malaise Feb 2018 OP

I was thinking the exact same thing as the news and photos CatWoman Feb 2018 #1

I wish white leaders would speak out about the destruction in their community and the cultural WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #2

The notion that the crowds in Philadelphia were exclusively one race or another is ridiculous jberryhill Feb 2018 #23

Oh, of course the crowds weren't 100 percent white. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #24

"Oh if course the crowds weren't 100 percent white".. whathehell Feb 2018 #30

LOL. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #32

LOl back at you.. whathehell Feb 2018 #50

When black folk run amok, damage property, it's a "riot." When white folk do it, it's "homecoming." EffieBlack Feb 2018 #97

I'm sorry, but like some others here, I don't whathehell Feb 2018 #115

RIOT is riot. Nonsense to "happy riot." BUT 100,000 people Hortensis Feb 2018 #119

I sure as hell don't know who called it a "happy riot" whathehell Feb 2018 #123

Look up thread and chill. Sorry, did not mean a personal insult. Hortensis Feb 2018 #130

I'd say it's you who should have done that first. whathehell Feb 2018 #131

turned over cars set fires smashed Macys windows ...what makes a riot then??Anger ?so every protest? lunasun Feb 2018 #105

Where are you getting cars from jberryhill Feb 2018 #112

As explained, whathehell Feb 2018 #116

and that pic doesn't show rioting... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #58

Yes jberryhill Feb 2018 #67

no... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #80

Yeah, as if jberryhill Feb 2018 #81

This is Philly jberryhill Feb 2018 #82

Yes, see my #45 below. I think the BLM folks erred on this one. stevenleser Feb 2018 #47

The crowds were also "beyond control" RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #60

They were not "beyond control" jberryhill Feb 2018 #64

Youre missing my point RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #69

And you are missing the point that a unpermitted block party is different from a permitted one jberryhill Feb 2018 #73

I I guess the difference is... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #36

Do these look like Happy Whites to you? jberryhill Feb 2018 #49

no, but they don't look like they are rioting either.... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #56

Yes, and I've posted them in this thread jberryhill Feb 2018 #59

I don't any fires or overturned cars in that photo tenderfoot Feb 2018 #65

How many cars were overturned, in your estimation? jberryhill Feb 2018 #66

Oooh look there's a GIRL on the awning! tenderfoot Feb 2018 #68

I do not see a girl jberryhill Feb 2018 #83

I see one right there tenderfoot Feb 2018 #84

My guess is that she is probably an adult jberryhill Feb 2018 #86

+1 lunasun Feb 2018 #107

What do you see in this video? jberryhill Feb 2018 #113

+++++++++++ pangaia Feb 2018 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author tblue37 Feb 2018 #63

Least surprising news this week genxlib Feb 2018 #3

yep. salin Feb 2018 #4

There were no riots in Philadelphia Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #5

Flipping cars, breaking storefronts and windows, trashing traffic lights, crowds of drunks eating WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #7

Wait it was done by white people? Totally just a victory celebration! /sarc ExciteBike66 Feb 2018 #8

You are exaggerating jberryhill Feb 2018 #9

Bottles thrown at cops, the volume of calls overwhelming response, fires... WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #13

Philadelphia is a racially diverse city jberryhill Feb 2018 #15

No, it's OK, I get it. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #17

What makes you think the crowds were somehow "white"? jberryhill Feb 2018 #22

Wow, you are on some racist shit. Black people cant be football fans? MadDAsHell Feb 2018 #96

Youll love this video jberryhill Feb 2018 #111

Community? I would bet the owner and employees of that store are not feeling a great sense of Tipperary Feb 2018 #129

"The relative degree of general mayhem was lower than a normal night in Philadelphia." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #27

Thank you.... Exaggerating and/or distorting facts whathehell Feb 2018 #31

Turning over cars? Starting fires? Damaging property? cwydro Feb 2018 #11

How many cars jberryhill Feb 2018 #14

I call it illegal behavior but not indicative of a "riot" when it concerns only 4 or 5 people out whathehell Feb 2018 #124

The other weird thing is how people outside of Philly somehow think the crowds were all white jberryhill Feb 2018 #12

And the desire to move the narrative away from the OPs point as quickly as possible LanternWaste Feb 2018 #34

The point being what? jberryhill Feb 2018 #35

Thank you. whathehell Feb 2018 #126

Were you at this Sunoco? oberliner Feb 2018 #37

A RACE RIOT! jberryhill Feb 2018 #87

Thank you..Always helpful to hear from those actually present. whathehell Feb 2018 #54

I made a comment on a Matty Iglesias tweet about how I was expecting to see octoberlib Feb 2018 #6

White people? oberliner Feb 2018 #38

They are all morons and need to be arrested MichMan Feb 2018 #10

No one rioted in Athens when UGA won the SEC and Rose Bowl. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #16

Nah, Males in Europe riot regularly after soccer games.. whathehell Feb 2018 #125

Exactly right mcar Feb 2018 #18

I remember that - malaise Feb 2018 #20

Yes mcar Feb 2018 #21

The Philly incident was definitely not Katrina. whathehell Feb 2018 #33

No big surprise, we all know the double standard by now. Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #19

I cant believe the denial I am reading in this thread, no wait, I can, sigh. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #76

Unbelievable, isn't it? EffieBlack Feb 2018 #98

This distinction has been noted repeatedly since the BLM movement started. Nitram Feb 2018 #25

Good point. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #26

Don't forget the tanks malaise Feb 2018 #28

How many women were tearing down lamp posts? I'd love to know. Bet there were none. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #29

Great point oberliner Feb 2018 #39

The lady at the top of this pole begs to differ jberryhill Feb 2018 #40

That's not really the kind of thing I was thinking of oberliner Feb 2018 #42

This "sort of thing" jberryhill Feb 2018 #44

And have a look at this one jberryhill Feb 2018 #57

I would usually be inclined to agree and do think this warrents a serious discussion randr Feb 2018 #41

Given the size of the crowds, things went well jberryhill Feb 2018 #43

Have you ever been to Philadelphia? Philadelphia has as many African Americans as white people stevenleser Feb 2018 #45

Philadelphia had a night of unity jberryhill Feb 2018 #52

I merely posted an article and asked for your thoughts n/t malaise Feb 2018 #53

Plenty of people from the suburbs were downtown IronLionZion Feb 2018 #94

I've been posting on fb since the win, that if they were black, they'd be dead. ancianita Feb 2018 #46

Exactly.. HipChick Feb 2018 #48

So no one in the streets that night was African American? RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #62

Doesn't diminish the facts of recent history or police double standards. ancianita Feb 2018 #72

Here's the thing that is missing from the discussion BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #77

It's not missing. It's not assumed either way. You are injecting 3 assumptions stevenleser Feb 2018 #108

Hi Steve! BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #120

Apparently, someone is bothered by a city demonstrating diverse unity in celebration jberryhill Feb 2018 #55

Has BLM said anything about the use of MLK to sell pick-up trucks in a TV ad? jalan48 Feb 2018 #61

Why should they? EffieBlack Feb 2018 #99

I thought they might be concerned about the co-opting of MLK's message by big business. jalan48 Feb 2018 #101

They can't, nor should they be expected to, comment on every single instance of screwed up sh!t that EffieBlack Feb 2018 #102

It's OK-I was just asking if they might have said something. jalan48 Feb 2018 #103

+++++ agree lunasun Feb 2018 #104

Co-opted from whom? Dr. Strange Feb 2018 #122

Wow-I didn't know this. I really can't believe it. jalan48 Feb 2018 #133

Yeah, it's a scene. Dr. Strange Feb 2018 #136

As a Philly resident BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #70

Amazing how many non-resident Philly experts have appeared jberryhill Feb 2018 #74

Actually BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #75

that gathering place was a quite a culmination of folks of many backgrounds! jberryhill Feb 2018 #79

Nobody celebrates diversity as much IronLionZion Feb 2018 #95

Ive been associated with people whove done plenty of bad things jberryhill Feb 2018 #110

You wouldn't like to be profiled and assumed to be guilty of something IronLionZion Feb 2018 #121

There are two types of protests in America Flo Mingo Feb 2018 #71

As an African American I get there's racism but we need voters to get rid of the current underthematrix Feb 2018 #78

Good post malaise Feb 2018 #92

My Thought Is RobinA Feb 2018 #85

Thanks malaise Feb 2018 #90

My thoughts: it's a stretch. malthaussen Feb 2018 #88

And The Fact That RobinA Feb 2018 #89

I participated in one such demonstration in 1974... malthaussen Feb 2018 #93

Thanks Mal malaise Feb 2018 #91

You're right - it's about the underlying reason for the demonstration, not the demonstration itself EffieBlack Feb 2018 #100

So if the people committing the sports disturbance were 95% black there would be no uponit7771 Feb 2018 #109

95% ? jberryhill Feb 2018 #114

I don't know short clip, is there an answer to my question? thx in advance uponit7771 Feb 2018 #117

It's a contra-factual and hypothetical question. malthaussen Feb 2018 #127

Then I'll take the answer as no, if the crowd was 95% black then they wouldn't get treated uponit7771 Feb 2018 #135

WHat you said. Nailed it. Nothing to add. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #106

Apparently it's worse to riot over real issues like injustice but Raine Feb 2018 #118

Good point malaise Feb 2018 #128

They weren't all white, but a majority of them were EffieBlack Feb 2018 #134

Agree malaise Feb 2018 #137

I'd bet dollars to donuts DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #132