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bettyellen

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72. The industry is collapsing and taking department stores with them. Its been happening for 25 years
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

now w pressure to keep prices low being a driving factor but now Amazon is where everyone wants to be. Aside from store closings, they’re moving as many corporate HQ jobs to Asia and India as they can. Gap just fired 90% of their designers. They’re all trying to use algorithms and key words culled from online searches customers have made instead. The industry used to be the number one employer in NYC and its disappearing fast. They’re talking about a deal with the city to move headquarters to Brooklyn (ironically in a are where the last cutting rooms and factories were) because they want that real estate between Macy’s and Times Square to give to developers.
There less demand too, but generally the low quality retailers like H&M and Old Navy have been the big winners in the last 15 years. So that’s where they all try to go.

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The Death of Clothing [View all] Ohiogal Feb 2018 OP
The premises for the article needs a bit of adjusting Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
Cheaply made nails it. murielm99 Feb 2018 #2
Consumers demand prices that demand slave wages. And then theyre upset when bettyellen Feb 2018 #42
I don't buy that Stardust1 Feb 2018 #67
The thing is, prices should have been increasing over the years- but instead cheaper and cheaper bettyellen Feb 2018 #68
Sorry Stardust1 Feb 2018 #71
The industry is collapsing and taking department stores with them. Its been happening for 25 years bettyellen Feb 2018 #72
To be technical-- Old Navy is Gap (as is Banana Republic) crazycatlady Feb 2018 #73
I know, Gap is the parent company. I was talking about Gap division layoffs. Old Navy is in bettyellen Feb 2018 #75
I find as I get older I buy less marlakay Feb 2018 #64
why pay retail when you can get really good clothing for much less at thrift and consignment niyad Feb 2018 #3
The culture in the workplace and other places has changed. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #4
Panty hose and high heels Ohiogal Feb 2018 #7
The nice thing about being retired is not having to buy new clothes, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #5
I never understood Ohiogal Feb 2018 #9
For some people shopping is a sport. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #14
Sounds like me at the comic book store. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #52
I enjoyed clothes shopping a lot more when I was size 6-8 and had more disposable income MustLoveBeagles Feb 2018 #53
I still shop at Lands' End, and if you're careful, you can still get good quality clothes there. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2018 #17
Most of my clothes are from Lands End. Tracer Feb 2018 #34
Yeah, the sales are great! I just bought my husband some shirts on sale. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2018 #39
I buy Ohiogal Feb 2018 #47
Bring back Hammer pants Renew Deal Feb 2018 #6
Actually something similar to that has made a comeback crazycatlady Feb 2018 #20
Bad styling and for me the absence of color katmondoo Feb 2018 #8
About the only thing Ohiogal Feb 2018 #12
I was thinking something similar... Phentex Feb 2018 #23
Polyester crap and thin fabric that shows every figure flaw. tblue37 Feb 2018 #24
Look up Gudrun Sjoden spinbaby Feb 2018 #31
Have you ever heard of Gudrun Sjoden? dhol82 Feb 2018 #76
I buy a lot of clothes from Boden tammywammy Feb 2018 #81
Compared To When I Grew Up In 50's & 60's People Look Frumpy. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2018 #10
I hate the ugly beards. The duck dynasty crew made it Ilsa Feb 2018 #41
I'm with you on the scraggly beards. Ohiogal Feb 2018 #48
Yes, and that two day stubble look. Most guys look awful with it. Tipperary Feb 2018 #63
Me too. Especially the stubble look when dressed up TexasBushwhacker Feb 2018 #79
I don't go to church very often gvstn Feb 2018 #56
Because the Clothing Industry decided... WyattKansas Feb 2018 #11
It looks dreadful even when its in the store spinbaby Feb 2018 #32
I used to work closely with quality control people at retailers. They eliminated most of their work. bettyellen Feb 2018 #44
I remember in high school in the 70s treestar Feb 2018 #13
Yep PasadenaTrudy Feb 2018 #21
Anyone remember Earth Shoes? Ohiogal Feb 2018 #49
I wore them PasadenaTrudy Feb 2018 #69
I love clogs! N/t gay texan Feb 2018 #54
Glad I'm retired and don't have to spend money on business clothing anymore. Paladin Feb 2018 #15
The decluttering and minimalism trend has lead to capsule wardrobes and "fast fashion" backlash Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #16
Blue jeans and t-shirts for me---flannel in the winter. panader0 Feb 2018 #18
I only buy clothes when my wife forces me to. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #19
Some of it has to do with price Betty88 Feb 2018 #22
NUDITY NOW! Orrex Feb 2018 #25
please leave the lady who is first out this lol nt msongs Feb 2018 #29
I still buy from L.L. Bean & Woolrich CountAllVotes Feb 2018 #26
I probably used to spend more money on fewer items - that were way better quality. LisaM Feb 2018 #27
I hate to tell this, but well made and expensive clothes are still made w those paid crap bettyellen Feb 2018 #46
I know that and it's unfortunate. I do the best I can with labels.... LisaM Feb 2018 #50
And I appreciate it greatly! When I see so many people scramble to pay as little as possible... bettyellen Feb 2018 #51
I used to look hot in tight jeans. Beakybird Feb 2018 #28
I went shopping for a last minute dress janterry Feb 2018 #30
I've discovered this new place to shop crazycatlady Feb 2018 #33
Quality Tree-Hugger Feb 2018 #35
Money for nice clothes? thbobby Feb 2018 #36
The cost of housing, in particular, is out of hand in the U.S. in relation to wages. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #83
Our grandchildren from solidly middle class but not Hortensis Feb 2018 #37
Local Kmart closed Freddie Feb 2018 #38
We're living in a different world, the population is aging, and work attire has changed matt819 Feb 2018 #40
"Apparel has simply lost its appeal" Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #43
It's a different era hardluck Feb 2018 #45
It seems to me women's fashion doesn't change as fast as it used to kcr Feb 2018 #55
The slovenly hordes of Murica think they look great! maxsolomon Feb 2018 #57
I see many replies are missing a key point: technology GusBob Feb 2018 #58
am I the only one who HAS to try things on? Skittles Feb 2018 #59
I'm with you, would be endless sending back if flamingdem Feb 2018 #60
I took some non-trendy, gently-worn women's Ilsa Feb 2018 #61
Ohiogal - i agree totally with your conclusion. SharonClark Feb 2018 #62
I like having a capsule of good quality basics such as a pair of black jeans, a cashmere sweater, Glimmer of Hope Feb 2018 #65
Retailers blame everyone but themselves. Stardust1 Feb 2018 #66
And they've cut back on floor staff to a bare minimum TexasBushwhacker Feb 2018 #80
What I'm wearing now....... mrmpa Feb 2018 #70
I wear jeans and nice blouses but WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2018 #74
I tend to go to Kohl's underpants Feb 2018 #77
Why should I buy a new coat when instead no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #78
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