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NewMoonTherian

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46. I've been into raising the speed limit since before I was into gun rights.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:40 PM

Jul 2012

That's not an effective argument for everyone.

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Pro gun arguments [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 OP

Excellent post. It is sad for people to be so brainwashed via media, gaming, culture change... rustydog Jul 2012 #1

the national racist association will not like this OP lol nt msongs Jul 2012 #2

A backlash will come nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #3

re: low level fear laundry_queen Jul 2012 #152

there is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #156

Is it really so wrong to want to defend yourself with a gun when someone is shooting at you? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #4

For the sake of this argument I am going to assume nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #7

The two most important factors are, in my mind,... aikoaiko Jul 2012 #14

Partially right nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19

Well I said "without injuring others" aikoaiko Jul 2012 #23

How do you deal nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #34

No, getting shot in the face is the absolute last choice. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #60

Transported a few with very nasty bruises nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #64

Agreed. Self-defense is a great responsibility not to be taken lightly. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #67

What? What cops, what SEALS? Union Scribe Jul 2012 #42

Friends of ours nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #54

Were they involved in all the shootouts with you? zappaman Jul 2012 #92

damn you... owe me a new monitor... dionysus Jul 2012 #96

something like this I'll bet.. zappaman Jul 2012 #99

Um Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #5

We can't even agree to...100% background checks are reasonable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #9

Nope Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #10

Did I say that? No nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #12

I didn't say that Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #13

But even that, people on your side scream over incrementalism nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #16

If Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #18

It's easy, wireless access to databases nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #20

Actually that, beyond the loss of life, is one of the reasons I agree to the system I outlined Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #22

Did... Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #26

You are the first to see this small step as reasonable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #37

In one ear, out the other Scootaloo Jul 2012 #27

I've not attempted to hide my interpretation of the 2nd amendment Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #29

the second amendment says 'a regulated militia' so 'yes' regulations are reasonable samsingh Jul 2012 #31

Never argued that Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #35

What you bolder is in the declaration nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #39

I'm obviously aware of that Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #44

Which will be put down even more effectively nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #49

You're changing the topic Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #53

I am not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #55

Sorry you feel that way Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #56

Well on it's way nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #57

interesting points but again my interpretation is different samsingh Jul 2012 #98

Driving isn't a right... Missycim Jul 2012 #33

Thank you for the nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #40

Truth is truth... Missycim Jul 2012 #61

As long as the I'd is federal and free, easily obtainable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #63

Of course it has... Missycim Jul 2012 #72

I have, stated it on this thread nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #77

Are you ok? Missycim Jul 2012 #79

Now you are going to say Missycim Jul 2012 #83

Holmes bought his guns legally... MicaelS Jul 2012 #136

Yes, yes he did nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #140

But I do believe in a 100% Background Checks. MicaelS Jul 2012 #141

two ways you can do the involuntary nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #142

I see both answers as big problems.. MicaelS Jul 2012 #144

Well if the 72 hour hold was followed with nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #145

I've been into raising the speed limit since before I was into gun rights. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #46

That would be cool...ban ALL weapons chowder66 Jul 2012 #21

Better regulation and constant education for everyone will never happen as long as the NRA exists. Lint Head Jul 2012 #30

There are reports that NRA members are chowder66 Jul 2012 #41

They need an internal, base driven, revolt nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #47

Maybe a totally new organization with reasonable bylaws that competes with the NRA. Lint Head Jul 2012 #48

That is also possible. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #51

This would probably be the way to go chowder66 Jul 2012 #84

Ironic bongbong Jul 2012 #108

Well truth be told nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #109

Yes bongbong Jul 2012 #111

You are correct, one done by Frank Luntz nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #112

Tanks bongbong Jul 2012 #115

That's going to make CLUE a boring game... hughee99 Jul 2012 #143

Not really, you can just use little cars instead. nt chowder66 Jul 2012 #166

People with guns kill people. MNBrewer Jul 2012 #6

Technically, bullets kills people. n/t zappaman Jul 2012 #8

Technically, the damage caused by the bullets having been fired into the victim kills people. MNBrewer Jul 2012 #24

Generally, it's the lack of blood to the brain, as a result of said damage, that kills. yawnmaster Jul 2012 #59

Everybody in the end dies from the same cause...heart failure n/t EX500rider Jul 2012 #125

Although, I suppose if one is decapitated, it hardly matters how long the heart keeps beating. MNBrewer Jul 2012 #167

Ever hear of incrementalism? badtoworse Jul 2012 #11

Ever hears of the real Tucson AZ, or the other towns nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #15

I have no idea what you are saying. zappaman Jul 2012 #17

again driving isn't a right Missycim Jul 2012 #38

So you are telling me the old west had absolutely zero gun regulations? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #45

I am not saying that at all Missycim Jul 2012 #58

So since there is very little we can do nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #65

So you are Missycim Jul 2012 #74

Stated it already, 100% background checks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #76

well i am my own person thanks Missycim Jul 2012 #78

Yes, there is a lot that can be done to regulate firearms, without infringing on the 2nd. soccer1 Jul 2012 #116

There are gun control laws I support. I oppose "feel good" laws that accomplish nothing. badtoworse Jul 2012 #69

Been posting for a few mass shootings now nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #73

I thought I posted that supported background checks on all handgun purchases. badtoworse Jul 2012 #89

All fire arms, no exceptions. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #91

Would you trade a federal CCW License to get that? badtoworse Jul 2012 #94

I was once offered a federal one nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #100

You didn't have a CCW when you were in those shootouts? zappaman Jul 2012 #101

I just don't see the need and I've already passed a background check to legally purchase handguns badtoworse Jul 2012 #102

transported, where you a freelance marshal or bounty hunter loli phabay Jul 2012 #104

How about people who travel or have residences in multiple states, as I do. badtoworse Jul 2012 #105

i got no problem with them, was just wondering why the FBI would actively offer one, seems kinda off loli phabay Jul 2012 #106

I'm ok with that. MNBrewer Jul 2012 #25

A very poor argument. DanTex Jul 2012 #36

The gun rights are pushed by people on all sides nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #43

Not really. DanTex Jul 2012 #52

Have you been reading DU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #66

I know all about the gungeon. DanTex Jul 2012 #80

Or right here on the ol DU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #85

Always Nice, Sir, To Hear a Man State Flat Out He Is a Paranoiac The Magistrate Jul 2012 #50

That's a sword that cuts two ways badtoworse Jul 2012 #81

Wrong. DanTex Jul 2012 #88

Do you read what gets posted here by gun control advocates? badtoworse Jul 2012 #93

LOL. So you can't actually come up with a single example of gun control paranoia. DanTex Jul 2012 #95

I'm using a smartphone on the bus coming home from work badtoworse Jul 2012 #97

Here are some cases that come to mind badtoworse Jul 2012 #103

Huh? bongbong Jul 2012 #110

Citations? What cases are you referring to? badtoworse Jul 2012 #114

Miller, for one bongbong Jul 2012 #117

You should have read more about Miller badtoworse Jul 2012 #122

Yep, I did bongbong Jul 2012 #131

If the SCOTUS had intended Miller to apply to firearms in general, they would have said so. badtoworse Jul 2012 #139

No they wouldn't bongbong Jul 2012 #148

If you have a better citation, then post it. What you've posted so far doesn't cut it. badtoworse Jul 2012 #151

Oh yeah? bongbong Jul 2012 #153

Those aren't examples of paranoia. DanTex Jul 2012 #121

Sure looks like paranoia to me, but that shouldn't be a surprise. badtoworse Jul 2012 #123

It doesn't look like you know what "paranoia" means. DanTex Jul 2012 #124

This has gotten boring badtoworse Jul 2012 #132

This isn't about guns, it is about violence. harun Jul 2012 #28

violence enabled by access to a lot of guns samsingh Jul 2012 #32

Drunk driving is not about drinking or cars. savalez Jul 2012 #70

"So I gotta ask...how many other laws shoud we get rid off since they are regularly disobeyed?" NCTraveler Jul 2012 #62

I am sure you are aware you just engaged in a talking point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #68

I have no clue who you are responding to. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #71

Word salad indeed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #75

I just don't see what this has to do with my post. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #82

Good bye nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #86

Have a blessed day. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #87

"collective insanity" pintobean Jul 2012 #90

Yes bongbong Jul 2012 #107

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #113

Totally agree Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #118

It probably would have worked. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #119

So Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #126

So, who knows? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #150

Talking Point #12 bongbong Jul 2012 #120

I know you think there's a grand conspiracy where we're all fed talking points Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #127

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #134

Nice theory Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #137

More laughs, as always bongbong Jul 2012 #147

You're tilting at windmills friend nt Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #149

Obvious bongbong Jul 2012 #155

I was always a pro 2nd amendment guy Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #158

Yawn bongbong Jul 2012 #159

The "cowboy hero" mentality of gun culture is one of main reasons I'm against carrying in public. Hoyt Jul 2012 #128

You have a very biased view of people who carry a weapon without any basis in fact nt Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #129

Probably from the sampling of those arguing on DU against any regulations fascisthunter Jul 2012 #130

Well, I've known plenty of pro-gun types that should never be allowed near a gun. And Hoyt Jul 2012 #133

If we want to play the examples game Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #135

Says the ex-robber? X_Digger Jul 2012 #138

My argument against gun control is that it doesn't work Taverner Jul 2012 #146

If we cannot get over the 100% background check nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #154

I don't mind background checks Taverner Jul 2012 #157

Yeah, but have you been reading DU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #160

The NRA is insane and more like a cult than a PAC Taverner Jul 2012 #161

there ya go nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #162

What about buying a gun Turbineguy Jul 2012 #163

As long as we accept a 100% background check nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #164

Check Turbineguy Jul 2012 #165