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LiberalLovinLug

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9. I just do not get Democrats in Washington sometimes

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:24 PM

Feb 2018

They should be on TV every day from now until the mid terms demanding this! It would be a stretch for any Rethug to claim partisanship on it, because theoretically, it only would assure a proper vote count for each side.

And this has been going on for the last 3 elections at minimum. Yet crickets from Dems. Its like they WANT to lose. Truly baffling.

Also, that is a myth about paper ballots taking days. We have a very large country here in Canada as well. You just hire enough temporary workers for the day. You have a bigger population to work with but that means you also have a larger pool of workers to draw from. It can be done.

Anyways, with our paper balloting, results are in the same evening. No longer than it takes in the US.

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Charles P Pierce - If the Russians Got into Voting Machines, I Fear for the Republic [View all] n2doc Feb 2018 OP

I'd bet I can name the states hacked successfully: lark Feb 2018 #1

States too Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #2

Exactly why they were flipped. lark Feb 2018 #3

Especially MFM008 Feb 2018 #5

WI. How the hell did Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold? chuckstevens Feb 2018 #23

Exactly. I was asking that on election night. Except I knew the answer. Knew it as soon as Amaryllis Feb 2018 #39

Russia stole it for him, lark Feb 2018 #76

we need to VOTE BY MAIL .... like we do in OREGON. it is great trueblue2007 Feb 2018 #67

They did MFM008 Feb 2018 #4

All paper ballots in 2018 YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #6

I just do not get Democrats in Washington sometimes LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #9

Your country has the counting methods set up YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #13

Its really not that difficult LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #16

verified Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #73

Canada has the same population as California. Also, we throw everything on one ballot... Hekate Feb 2018 #50

Ah yes, the benefits of "direct democracy" LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #77

California's ballot Propositions have led to some really, really stupid decisions Hekate Feb 2018 #78

Exactly!!! usaf-vet Feb 2018 #10

Absolutely. The first few times I voted, we used paper ballots here in Georgia Glorfindel Feb 2018 #29

Michigan has paper ballots statewide. longship Feb 2018 #41

Then, if necessary assign a Federal agent to each precinct. Ligyron Feb 2018 #47

We have precinct observers in nearly every precinct. longship Feb 2018 #62

it has to be paper ballots counted by hand with a tight chain of custody questionseverything Feb 2018 #63

And then we will have lost ballot boxes, stuffed ballots, hanging chads, etc. Hoyt Feb 2018 #52

Please spare me the macho speech about losers, etc We dont have to accept cheating YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #54

Hacking didnt cost us the election. Never suggested not taking precautions. Spare me Hoyt Feb 2018 #56

Agree on GOTV. Disagree on hacking YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #58

Maybe some folks didnt want to admit voting for trump. Hoyt Feb 2018 #59

the "shy conservative voter" theory started in 2000. coincidence? probably not. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #65

obama was smart enough and had the army of volunteers to count the precincts himself questionseverything Feb 2018 #66

Well, they're definitely not telling us everything. octoberlib Feb 2018 #7

"Volga Bagmen". Bingo. n/t TygrBright Feb 2018 #8

I hear there are a lot of badger fans in Minsk. Ellipsis Feb 2018 #11

... mcar Feb 2018 #12

So I will say it again edhopper Feb 2018 #14

And I will agree again ... planetc Feb 2018 #26

Keith Olberman was the only one who would go there after they stole 2004. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #40

In any reasonable country, however, he'd have lost by a whole lot more FiveGoodMen Feb 2018 #31

True edhopper Feb 2018 #34

My concern, though, is that we talk like we'd be okay if elections were cleaned up FiveGoodMen Feb 2018 #35

Agreed edhopper Feb 2018 #44

They didn't get into voting machines. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #15

The Russians hacked into voter rolls, but I remain convinced that rainin Feb 2018 #20

On site, when there is no restriction on ability to access the machines Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #22

You're missing something important garybeck Feb 2018 #60

This would make an excellent OP in and of itself. Great explanation. diva77 Feb 2018 #72

No Russians required for this necessarily. The rethug & nonrethug SOS's certified these machines diva77 Feb 2018 #49

For what reason did they do it? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #21

I'm sure they are trying to mess with voter registration. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #70

you don't know that. don't act like you do. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #27

+1000 triron Feb 2018 #30

agree bluestarone Feb 2018 #33

With all due respect, you don't have a clue whether I have no experience - Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #69

How do you know? garybeck Feb 2018 #61

For one, I read reports of election system hacking very carefully, Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #71

It is impossible to observe what goes on inside a voting machine -- that is why the Germans rejected diva77 Feb 2018 #75

Somehow, we stopped trusting exit polls in domestic elections rainin Feb 2018 #17

Great link. byronius Feb 2018 #24

that started in 2000. i'm shocked. not. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #28

'We are inching ever closer to the revelation that the actual vote totals were hacked...' C Moon Feb 2018 #18

Yep, we knew it. n/t rainin Feb 2018 #32

+1, they don't even have to hack the totals just hack the voter roles and keep people uponit7771 Feb 2018 #36

Lots of us suspected it when the news about hacking came out summer of 2016. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #42

Yep. And the same thing is going to happen this November unless something is fixed. C Moon Feb 2018 #46

And specially because Republicans don't want to stop them. Kablooie Feb 2018 #19

The ends justify the means to Republicans Generic Brad Feb 2018 #38

my post from last nite is relevant here triron Feb 2018 #25

Don't fear - fix Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2018 #37

Yup! Botany Feb 2018 #43

Can't rec this enough! Ligyron Feb 2018 #45

"it's incumbent upon states & the feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked red dog 1 Feb 2018 #48

Let's require manual, hand counting of all votes in all elections in our country! Sophia4 Feb 2018 #51

I have long wondered about what happened in Kentucky in 2016. (eom) StevieM Feb 2018 #53

And yet the counties in Wisconsin that hand recounted counties showed not significant and mythology Feb 2018 #55

would appreciate a link to the source of your information n/t diva77 Feb 2018 #57

bradblog says 9-30 % uncounted in some areas questionseverything Feb 2018 #64

it is quite likely that hacking would be targeted at precincts w/ no paper trail; and remember, TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #68

investigate and re- or de-certify Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #74