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edhopper

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14. So I will say it again

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:35 PM

Feb 2018

TRUMP FUCKING LOST!!!

Enough why Hillary couldn't overcome voter suppression, the media, Comey and this to get enough votes to overcome Trump.
She fucking did and they stole it.

And enough of why we need to understand why Trump was successful in 2016. HE FUCKING LOST!! And we don't need to appeal to the people he did. they are a minority and can go screw themselves.

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Charles P Pierce - If the Russians Got into Voting Machines, I Fear for the Republic [View all] n2doc Feb 2018 OP

I'd bet I can name the states hacked successfully: lark Feb 2018 #1

States too Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #2

Exactly why they were flipped. lark Feb 2018 #3

Especially MFM008 Feb 2018 #5

WI. How the hell did Ron Johnson beat Russ Feingold? chuckstevens Feb 2018 #23

Exactly. I was asking that on election night. Except I knew the answer. Knew it as soon as Amaryllis Feb 2018 #39

Russia stole it for him, lark Feb 2018 #76

we need to VOTE BY MAIL .... like we do in OREGON. it is great trueblue2007 Feb 2018 #67

They did MFM008 Feb 2018 #4

All paper ballots in 2018 YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #6

I just do not get Democrats in Washington sometimes LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #9

Your country has the counting methods set up YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #13

Its really not that difficult LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #16

verified Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #73

Canada has the same population as California. Also, we throw everything on one ballot... Hekate Feb 2018 #50

Ah yes, the benefits of "direct democracy" LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #77

California's ballot Propositions have led to some really, really stupid decisions Hekate Feb 2018 #78

Exactly!!! usaf-vet Feb 2018 #10

Absolutely. The first few times I voted, we used paper ballots here in Georgia Glorfindel Feb 2018 #29

Michigan has paper ballots statewide. longship Feb 2018 #41

Then, if necessary assign a Federal agent to each precinct. Ligyron Feb 2018 #47

We have precinct observers in nearly every precinct. longship Feb 2018 #62

it has to be paper ballots counted by hand with a tight chain of custody questionseverything Feb 2018 #63

And then we will have lost ballot boxes, stuffed ballots, hanging chads, etc. Hoyt Feb 2018 #52

Please spare me the macho speech about losers, etc We dont have to accept cheating YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #54

Hacking didnt cost us the election. Never suggested not taking precautions. Spare me Hoyt Feb 2018 #56

Agree on GOTV. Disagree on hacking YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #58

Maybe some folks didnt want to admit voting for trump. Hoyt Feb 2018 #59

the "shy conservative voter" theory started in 2000. coincidence? probably not. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #65

obama was smart enough and had the army of volunteers to count the precincts himself questionseverything Feb 2018 #66

Well, they're definitely not telling us everything. octoberlib Feb 2018 #7

"Volga Bagmen". Bingo. n/t TygrBright Feb 2018 #8

I hear there are a lot of badger fans in Minsk. Ellipsis Feb 2018 #11

... mcar Feb 2018 #12

So I will say it again edhopper Feb 2018 #14

And I will agree again ... planetc Feb 2018 #26

Keith Olberman was the only one who would go there after they stole 2004. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #40

In any reasonable country, however, he'd have lost by a whole lot more FiveGoodMen Feb 2018 #31

True edhopper Feb 2018 #34

My concern, though, is that we talk like we'd be okay if elections were cleaned up FiveGoodMen Feb 2018 #35

Agreed edhopper Feb 2018 #44

They didn't get into voting machines. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #15

The Russians hacked into voter rolls, but I remain convinced that rainin Feb 2018 #20

On site, when there is no restriction on ability to access the machines Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #22

You're missing something important garybeck Feb 2018 #60

This would make an excellent OP in and of itself. Great explanation. diva77 Feb 2018 #72

No Russians required for this necessarily. The rethug & nonrethug SOS's certified these machines diva77 Feb 2018 #49

For what reason did they do it? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #21

I'm sure they are trying to mess with voter registration. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #70

you don't know that. don't act like you do. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #27

+1000 triron Feb 2018 #30

agree bluestarone Feb 2018 #33

With all due respect, you don't have a clue whether I have no experience - Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #69

How do you know? garybeck Feb 2018 #61

For one, I read reports of election system hacking very carefully, Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #71

It is impossible to observe what goes on inside a voting machine -- that is why the Germans rejected diva77 Feb 2018 #75

Somehow, we stopped trusting exit polls in domestic elections rainin Feb 2018 #17

Great link. byronius Feb 2018 #24

that started in 2000. i'm shocked. not. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #28

'We are inching ever closer to the revelation that the actual vote totals were hacked...' C Moon Feb 2018 #18

Yep, we knew it. n/t rainin Feb 2018 #32

+1, they don't even have to hack the totals just hack the voter roles and keep people uponit7771 Feb 2018 #36

Lots of us suspected it when the news about hacking came out summer of 2016. Amaryllis Feb 2018 #42

Yep. And the same thing is going to happen this November unless something is fixed. C Moon Feb 2018 #46

And specially because Republicans don't want to stop them. Kablooie Feb 2018 #19

The ends justify the means to Republicans Generic Brad Feb 2018 #38

my post from last nite is relevant here triron Feb 2018 #25

Don't fear - fix Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2018 #37

Yup! Botany Feb 2018 #43

Can't rec this enough! Ligyron Feb 2018 #45

"it's incumbent upon states & the feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked red dog 1 Feb 2018 #48

Let's require manual, hand counting of all votes in all elections in our country! Sophia4 Feb 2018 #51

I have long wondered about what happened in Kentucky in 2016. (eom) StevieM Feb 2018 #53

And yet the counties in Wisconsin that hand recounted counties showed not significant and mythology Feb 2018 #55

would appreciate a link to the source of your information n/t diva77 Feb 2018 #57

bradblog says 9-30 % uncounted in some areas questionseverything Feb 2018 #64

it is quite likely that hacking would be targeted at precincts w/ no paper trail; and remember, TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #68

investigate and re- or de-certify Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #74