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GulfCoast66

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37. Knock yourself out...

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:04 AM

Feb 2018

And I ‘listen’ to all sides of a debate and then make up my own mind.

And just because some random dude who happened to score a job in the Obama White House believes something does not make it correct. These folks make my point...people how have no power in our party attacking those who do.

No one, including you, have presented a scenario where the Democratic Party shutting down the government helps the Democratic Party or the DACA kids. The Republicans would just sit back, watch our poll numbers crash and wait for us to cave.

We shut down the government for DACA kids we lose this fall.

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CNN Op Ed: Pelosi and the Democrats sold out the Dreamers [View all] hueymahl Feb 2018 OP

Hard to go along with that headline after Pelosi's 8 hr speech and the Dems having no... brush Feb 2018 #1

I think her point is talk is cheap hueymahl Feb 2018 #4

Yes they could of used it to force the issue but that would be extremely politically Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #59

No politically damaging to the Democrats in general...not HER...It's not an excuse Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #60

Perhaps if those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in still_one Feb 2018 #13

"In case anyone isn't aware, the 2018 election is 9 months away." Beartracks Feb 2018 #14

This is one of the clearest explanations of this issue I've seen in a long time EffieBlack Feb 2018 #17

THANK YOU! betsuni Feb 2018 #19

The new deal give 10 years for CHIP...that is pretty damn good...hate these it's the Dems Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #31

10 years. that is far better than I realized, I thought it was 6 years still_one Feb 2018 #34

It was in the first agreement...the second was better. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #38

excellent, thanks Demsrule86 still_one Feb 2018 #42

Well done! JustAnotherGen Feb 2018 #36

+1000! mcar Feb 2018 #50

And failed spectacularly. Adrahil Feb 2018 #16

I think that in 600 PAGES they had MANY issues that Hortensis Feb 2018 #23

+1 betsuni Feb 2018 #24

Trump would have been happy to shut down the government OR to fail to raise the debt ceiling. pnwmom Feb 2018 #25

We are headed for economic trouble ...layoffs my brother is laid off now...and markets reminde me Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #35

No they couldn't. It would not work and would be counter productive...guess people should have voted Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #30

+1 Lucinda Feb 2018 #12

Trash thread. FSogol Feb 2018 #2

what happened to McConnells promise of a DACA vote? its all zzzz's lately nt msongs Feb 2018 #3

It is set for next week. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #39

"leave protections for immigrant youth out in exchange for dollars for other projects" OhioBlue Feb 2018 #5

Or we get enough Dems in Office.. Cha Feb 2018 #6

That's the spirit, Cha. oasis Feb 2018 #8

Mahalo, oasis! Cha Feb 2018 #9

Absolutely but we can't do that until November and they won't be seated until Jan OhioBlue Feb 2018 #10

You're right, OhioBlue.. we need Cha Feb 2018 #11

And the GOP may not be willing to compromise...that is what I fear. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #40

We have a good chance, Cha mcar Feb 2018 #51

Anyone on the left who blames the Democratic Party for the plight of DACA kids... GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #15

Exactly. Americans DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT SHIT DOWN, PERIOD!! LBM20 Feb 2018 #21

Perhaps you should have a listen... a la izquierda Feb 2018 #32

Knock yourself out... GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #37

I agree with every word in this post... Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #41

DU Op-Ed: The Goddam GOP Sold Out the Dreamers Hekate Feb 2018 #18

The Democrats don't control anything Raine Feb 2018 #20

Trump put the Dreamers in a boat and drilled holes in the bottom TeamPooka Feb 2018 #22

SORRY but I do not agree..... chillfactor Feb 2018 #26

The article is crap. The dems try to keep it in the news, but mfcorey1 Feb 2018 #27

Pelosi and the Democrats... Mike Nelson Feb 2018 #28

blames Dems for Repugs attacking dreamers Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #29

He who turn and run away...live to fight another day. hexola Feb 2018 #33

Unless the author can give us a theory about how a minority party suddenly turns into a majority, Vinca Feb 2018 #43

this is way off bigtree Feb 2018 #44

So are the Dreamers to turn to Republicans for help now? Mr. Ected Feb 2018 #45

BULLSHIT Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #46

65 percent of Latinos voted for Hillary. That still leaves 35% who voted for Trump(R). Squinch Feb 2018 #47

If we shut down the government for DACA we might get those 6 GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #48

Your analysis makes me sad, but I think you might be right. Squinch Feb 2018 #49

Reminds me of the wife who voted for Trump, only to see her husband deported missingm Feb 2018 #57

Yeah, because the dems have so much power & influence in Congress. CrispyQ Feb 2018 #52

Think they will extend DACA, just like CHIP. But, damn GOPers have to scare people to death before Hoyt Feb 2018 #53

What does it take to make people realize that the democratic party has no power workinclasszero Feb 2018 #54

Elections have consequences. GOP controls all 3 levers of power. bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #55

Look, there probably wasn't much that could be done... vi5 Feb 2018 #56

"Let Down", OK, maybe a case can be made for that, but "Sold Out - NO Tom Rinaldo Feb 2018 #58