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100. Actually I think it is battery- which is a crime. And yes, its hard to prosecute one instance of it

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:02 PM

Feb 2018

But if you report it, and it happens again they tend to take in more seriously. What’s happening now is that it is still very hard to have more harmful crimes prosecuted.

And I hope you aren’t finding humor in prosecuting minorities- you know men were hanged for looking at white women just 60 years ago? Nothing to joke about.

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Ok, I'm not sure where I come down on the Gillibrand vs. Franken thing. [View all] Ken Burch Feb 2018 OP

I still stand with Al hueymahl Feb 2018 #1

Still disappointed in Tammy Baldwin dragonlady Feb 2018 #3

Yeah, she couldn't wait to throw him under the bus milestogo Feb 2018 #43

Let's be fair. Franken could have refused to resign and fought on...he chose not to. I for one don't Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #81

Lots wrong here. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #90

Franken was a Senator so it is not the same as if it was Pres. Obama. While he was a Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #91

So any senator is as good as any other? Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #103

In order to get a majority...we need warm bodies...any Democratic Senator will suffice. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #106

Use a calendar. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #107

It dampens the vote...Gillibrand is one person...she is not my senator nor yours if I remember Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #110

You certainly have an agenda. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #111

I have read the threads...I don't understand your point...Franken is gone nothing you do or say will Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #112

How saintly of you. Thanks for telling DU how important it is to vote Democratic. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #113

Noted. As for Ken's OP, I feel sure his answer lies in posting Hortensis Feb 2018 #78

Pulling for Karla! hueymahl Feb 2018 #84

Yes, she really sounds like one of the good people we want to keep Hortensis Feb 2018 #85

Glad that she won, but any Dem could have won there with a strong campaign. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #109

I stand with Al. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #2

I Stand With You Standing With Al Me. Feb 2018 #11

I am convinced she is not presidential material. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #15

Sen Gillibrand panicked and threw Sen Franken TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #31

My prediction: If she decides to run in 2020, she'll be that year's RandomAccess Feb 2018 #42

My suspicion is that she'll run as the "#MeToo candidate"... regnaD kciN Feb 2018 #55

Don't forget that Conyers was also tossed out with that week's scraps. ucrdem Feb 2018 #64

The allegations against Conyers were far more credible, more like RandomAccess Feb 2018 #65

No prob, not arguing, but the fact is that staffers are different from constituents ucrdem Feb 2018 #68

I stand with Al. Raster Feb 2018 #4

very cynical. barbtries Feb 2018 #19

I was going on what she said on 60 Minutes Ken Burch Feb 2018 #25

That's simply grotesque RandomAccess Feb 2018 #44

Agreed. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #46

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #48

K&R. I agree. "her right to speak out"...I've never heard such blatant, self-serving bullshit... brush Feb 2018 #59

So do I though it may be a futile stand in terms of him returning to running for office Jarqui Feb 2018 #101

Look at Al's first accuser, that was nothing but a right-wing doc03 Feb 2018 #5

I stand with Al happy feet Feb 2018 #8

I don't recall Franken putting duct tape on her mouth dalton99a Feb 2018 #6

I don't either. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #26

I'm not conflicted one bit. sdfernando Feb 2018 #7

+1000 OnDoutside Feb 2018 #10

That's it. NT enough Feb 2018 #53

Senator Franken was forced out of office by his Democratic colleagues.... spanone Feb 2018 #9

Still with Al. Guilded Lilly Feb 2018 #12

Me me me me me me me leftstreet Feb 2018 #13

Yes, that's what she seems to have been about. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #27

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #14

Wow, tacky, self delete. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #20

Wow flamingdem Feb 2018 #32

for a yr after trump became prez she was silent on his alleged behaviors (based on a google search) msongs Feb 2018 #16

She had ONE motive, make a name for herself! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #17

Gillibrand is the Democratic Dan Quayle. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #18

I wa unhappy with Gillibrand and others who were involved but it is over. Time to move on. We can't Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #21

Thank you! CTyankee Feb 2018 #22

Wasn't meaning to pick at a scab and largely agree with you. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #24

I am fine with it. It is what it is. I liked Franken and miss him...but he is one guy. We have Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #79

This sort of reaction is everything the GOP hoped for. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #73

OK. That seems prudent. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #23

I agree about the presidency. I wouldn't vote for her in a primary. But in a general I would Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #92

Agree, unless she wants to keep milking it, which it seems she does. NT enough Feb 2018 #54

To be fair, she is asked about it constantly. I think she should change the subject but she is Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #75

Yes, we'll just take up fucking knitting MrsMatt Feb 2018 #104

And what is the purpose of 'never forgetting' It is a waste of time and energy. Let's focus on Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #105

All I will say is I stand with Al and for the truth, not railroading for personal gain. lark Feb 2018 #28

I stand with the Honorable Senator Al Franken. sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #29

I imagine there was some behind the scenes talk and expectations that the Franken thing would never bettyellen Feb 2018 #30

She's clearly a piece of work. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #35

Ill admit to clear Al Franken bias but its because I think he is such a great communicator and has bettyellen Feb 2018 #38

True. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #63

The me too thing is causing lots of arguements among women as well- as to bettyellen Feb 2018 #66

I am upset with some of the me too stuff...as a person who was violently attacked... Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #93

Okay- grabbing you is assault. But not as bad as assault from coworkers or bosses- that disrupt your bettyellen Feb 2018 #94

Grabbing a person's butt is not assault and unless you are a minority...you will never be prosecuted Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #98

Actually I think it is battery- which is a crime. And yes, its hard to prosecute one instance of it bettyellen Feb 2018 #100

She is way ahead of herself msdogi Feb 2018 #33

After tRump made his tweet about due process, panader0 Feb 2018 #34

Her immediate reaction ... NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #36

Ambitions she has probably destroyed now, as it happened. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #37

And that's the great irony. NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #40

I doubt it... regnaD kciN Feb 2018 #58

We dont know who the victims are Nevernose Feb 2018 #39

Well said! NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #45

You're leaving out Hannity. It's big mistake IMHO to do so. ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #49

You forgot... Mandos the Judge Feb 2018 #82

Gillibrand. writerJT Feb 2018 #41

Say what you want,,.. LakeArenal Feb 2018 #47

Maybe you did miss it. writerJT Feb 2018 #51

so the lesson then is Egnever Feb 2018 #88

Ok, we know that Gillibrand is only in it for Gillibrand ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #50

It's exceptionally challenging to primary anyone in New York. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #62

So what do we do then? ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #69

I'd focus on making sure she doesn't get nominated if she runs in '20. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #71

Agree. Let her stay in the Senate, but Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #108

Don't vote for her in 2020 Presidential primary -- if she runs (which looks more and more KPN Feb 2018 #83

Some people think #BelieveAllWomen means accusers need to be taken seriously and not brushed-off... regnaD kciN Feb 2018 #52

Can you try explaining your conundrum again? BootinUp Feb 2018 #56

I was torn between wondering if AL was getting a fair shake about all of this... Ken Burch Feb 2018 #67

I think that Franken got a raw deal...I do. But what can we do about it...as for believing the Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #95

I agree that we need to move on. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #97

She also said ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #57

November may provide a final verdict on the oust-Franken movement... regnaD kciN Feb 2018 #60

At this point PDittie Feb 2018 #61

the thought is that she may one day run for president Skittles Feb 2018 #72

When you throw your best under the bus to advantage your own political career, what is next? democratisphere Feb 2018 #70

There was enough foolishness to go around. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author HopeAgain Feb 2018 #76

Notice To Republicans Wanting To Sabotage Democrats: ollie10 Feb 2018 #77

... LexVegas Feb 2018 #80

At some point Gillibrand may realize Danascot Feb 2018 #86

It was purely a political move to make it go away as an issue for Democrats alarimer Feb 2018 #87

As long as she stays in New York I don't care. jalan48 Feb 2018 #89

gillebrand can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned....will NEVER vote for her Rene Feb 2018 #96

I have no conflict. Consider .. ananda Feb 2018 #99

I get a strong JNelson6563 Feb 2018 #102