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SickOfTheOnePct

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57. Not necessarily

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:27 PM

Jul 2012

He couldn't have bought the AR-15 legally, but do you think someone that is planning a mass killing is going to hesitate to obtain the same weapon illegally?

It's fantasy to believe that outlawing guns will stop mass killings. Someone that is intent on such a massacre isn't going to hesitate to get what he needs to do so, even if he has to do it illegally.

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I hope James Holmes will at least put a stake through the argument [View all] pnwmom Jul 2012 OP

They are all Legal until the FIRST TIME HockeyMom Jul 2012 #1

How's that? Control-Z Jul 2012 #3

Holmes had no Felonies, no Adjudicated Mental Illness HockeyMom Jul 2012 #6

Would that also apply to first time armed robbers or home invaders who stole the gun Brisket Jul 2012 #10

I see what you're saying now. Control-Z Jul 2012 #20

What is there, if anything, about the shooter's purchases that would have set red flags off? X_Digger Jul 2012 #24

It's not that hard to figure out. Really. Control-Z Jul 2012 #48

If it's not so hard to figure out, then please explain.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #51

It is more than obvious Control-Z Jul 2012 #59

So no answer? X_Digger Jul 2012 #67

Are you serious?? Control-Z Jul 2012 #93

So the first time after this magical pattern match is implemented, when I purchase ammo online.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #101

You still don't get it. Control-Z Jul 2012 #105

No, you came up with what you thought was a clever idea.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #106

Well, I guess you believe you're batting 1000. Control-Z Jul 2012 #107

I think I know what HockeyMom means..... soccer1 Jul 2012 #7

Exactly. Like the saying every dog gets his first bite treestar Jul 2012 #9

I think we'll always have people who want to kill other people... soccer1 Jul 2012 #17

The crime rate is dropping from what I have read Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #77

The annual homicide number remained steady at around 10,000 murders for a decade. n/t ellisonz Jul 2012 #90

.. while the population went up by 20% -- did you miss the word 'rate'? n/t X_Digger Jul 2012 #102

The MSM thrives on extended coverage of sensational stories..... soccer1 Jul 2012 #96

I think I get it, finally! The solution is to imprision everyone (who might become a criminal) Brisket Jul 2012 #11

We could at least have a system that red flags people who go on buying sprees. reformist2 Jul 2012 #15

How exactly would your spree detector function? If you have a working model, you should Brisket Jul 2012 #18

Thread win. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #32

No but is there nothing at all that we can do? treestar Jul 2012 #50

My point is that these states don't ask WHY you want guns, HockeyMom Jul 2012 #16

Does Best Buy ask you "why" you want a printer? They should, you could be Brisket Jul 2012 #21

And all those planning murder would answer "To kill someone." when asked?!? X_Digger Jul 2012 #22

I want a gun to throw it away? HockeyMom Jul 2012 #25

Again, what value would such a question have? X_Digger Jul 2012 #29

Prove a point HockeyMom Jul 2012 #33

Let's suppose a person wanted a firearm for a nefarious purpose. ... spin Jul 2012 #49

Holmes might well have answered, "yes, I plan to kill thucythucy Jul 2012 #73

I don't, no.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #74

Except, according to the reports, he mailed thucythucy Jul 2012 #98

You're moving quite far afield from the original subject.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #100

Not a stretch at all. "Heavily armed Maine man arrested" thucythucy Jul 2012 #108

How do they know you wont lie? rrneck Jul 2012 #34

That'd be because the vast, overhwelming majority of purchases *are* for recreation/protection. Posteritatis Jul 2012 #37

Its none of their Missycim Jul 2012 #38

So they won't keep track of that gun I bought? HockeyMom Jul 2012 #39

Record the sale Missycim Jul 2012 #41

Everybody is entrenced in their positions on the matter, I'm afraid. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #2

Don't be confused bongbong Jul 2012 #4

I keep reading comments that Mitt is very intelligent... Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #5

How did he keep control of three guns treestar Jul 2012 #8

He must have carried them all in and put the ones he wasn't using pnwmom Jul 2012 #12

He had an assault rifle? I hadn't heard of that... Brisket Jul 2012 #14

Yes...I believe he had an AR-15 Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #30

The AR-15 was not designed for 'mass killing'. X_Digger Jul 2012 #54

It isn't an assault rifle either. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #63

Some are proud of their ignorance and wear it like a badge. *sigh* n/t X_Digger Jul 2012 #71

Indeed ...how many deer do you need to kill with 100 rounds at 1 per second? pkdu Jul 2012 #78

I don't agree that the AR platform is for hunting. It's for combat. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #83

Look at it from the other side for a moment. Marr Jul 2012 #82

But there is a very large difference... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #84

I don't necessarily want to ban anything. Marr Jul 2012 #86

I wouldn't want to accuse everyone... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #89

Yeah it's an assault weapon. ellisonz Jul 2012 #91

Hey, that term may be misleading, but at least it's not so egregiously dishonest. Good on ya. n/t NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #92

And the 100 round , shot per second , magazine is for the targets or the "smalL game" ? Nt pkdu Jul 2012 #80

It's for taking to the range, primarily X_Digger Jul 2012 #81

Bling. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #35

This story puts Mitt in an impossible situation. reformist2 Jul 2012 #13

Speaking for myself SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #19

You can ask until you're blue in the face how the gun-banners can guarantee that no criminals Brisket Jul 2012 #23

Like I said I could legally buy an gun HockeyMom Jul 2012 #26

Is there a large incidence of this behavior that you're aware of? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #43

Not large, but they do find rusted guns in ponds HockeyMom Jul 2012 #46

Rusted = useless n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #53

So the tragic boating accidents are real! NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #64

Fewer of them would treestar Jul 2012 #97

That's because anyone who used an outlawed gun would then be a criminal, by definition. pnwmom Jul 2012 #28

Fair enough SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #45

The AWB could have prevented Holmes from killing as many people as he did. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #47

Which AWB - the old one or the one they are trying to pass? nt hack89 Jul 2012 #55

Not necessarily SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #57

We're not really going to talk about cracking down on smoke bombs now, are we? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #65

What are smoke bombs for? What about tear gas? What's that for? n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #85

Smoke bombs? I use them for paintball. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #87

Tear gas as self-defense? How does that work? Wouldn't the tear gas pnwmom Jul 2012 #88

" . . . we can sometimes hope . . ." <-- Romney's new campaign slogan. Major Hogwash Jul 2012 #27

James Holmes is a chicken shit coward and will contribute nothing to anyone. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #31

We have to come to terms... DearAbby Jul 2012 #36

Ok fair enough Missycim Jul 2012 #40

Missy...this is already being done DearAbby Jul 2012 #52

I am talking about Missycim Jul 2012 #95

One point.. X_Digger Jul 2012 #58

There is nothing we can't do if we put our minds DearAbby Jul 2012 #62

Ohhkaaay... X_Digger Jul 2012 #70

Good point. There's no reason they should not be regulated treestar Jul 2012 #99

Your statement about Mitt Romney is false cbrer Jul 2012 #42

You should be correct. HuckleB Jul 2012 #44

It's illegal in Florida to own a gun if you are mentally ill Egalitariat Jul 2012 #56

And unless there was some record of him being mentally ill SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #61

One has to be adjudicated as such- and I'm okay with that. n/t X_Digger Jul 2012 #66

I think a good start would be to look at the numbers... EX500rider Jul 2012 #60

Why are you comparing crimes to accidents? reformist2 Jul 2012 #68

"5 times more killed by knives, 2 times more killed by hands & feet" EX500rider Jul 2012 #72

"Why are you comparing crimes to accidents?" EX500rider Jul 2012 #75

another AWB banned the AR believer. ileus Jul 2012 #69

Oh, lordy, broad-brush smears again. krispos42 Jul 2012 #76

It will never put a stake through it Aerows Jul 2012 #79

Yup...bill Mahler out it succinctly. Selfish. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author susanna Jul 2012 #94

You have said some things that are not true. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #103