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democratisphere

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50. Humans have done the work for not only hundreds but thousands of years.

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:52 PM

Feb 2018

Robots, automation and artificial intelligence are replacing humans at a new record pace. The past is meaningless in this automation age of today and tomorrow. The standard of living is not increasing in the USA with stagnant wages and ever higher prices for everything. It is no longer the cost of living, but the cost of existing. Worldwide populations continue to increase compounding and confounding the problem. UBI will never happen because the wealthiest insist on acquiring all of the wealth and don't care if anything is left for the masses. Watson (AI) will take the place of many thinking types of jobs. This situation is nothing to slough off or ignore.

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Tried the Amazon Go grocery store in Seattle today [View all] Kilgore Feb 2018 OP

People need jobs. If few have jobs, who will shop at Amazon Go?! democratisphere Feb 2018 #1

People need jobs. If few have jobs, who will shop at Amazon Go?! LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #2

UBI now. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #4

Exactly. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #6

+1 moondust Feb 2018 #7

I make it a point to do that as well. Kittycow Feb 2018 #15

Same here! Petrushka Feb 2018 #56

"Technology gone toofar?" That's been a mantra for centuries. Adrahil Feb 2018 #37

Reality check! democratisphere Feb 2018 #39

And yet, we've heard that for CENTURIES. Adrahil Feb 2018 #43

There is no skill that's safe. kcr Feb 2018 #49

So... what's your plan? Adrahil Feb 2018 #59

Bellyaching? kcr Feb 2018 #82

Yes.... I generally deplore hand-wringing without a proposed solution. Adrahil Feb 2018 #86

Humans have done the work for not only hundreds but thousands of years. democratisphere Feb 2018 #50

Yes they are. Adrahil Feb 2018 #60

Well Put!!! Kilgore Feb 2018 #72

I think there will still be jobs... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #58

very few jobs...greedy corporations won't feed them. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #70

Buggy Whips Union 101 local, represent! n/t X_Digger Feb 2018 #83

Kind of evil brilliant. Psychologically it's easier to charge items on a charge card AJT Feb 2018 #3

I agree, the grab and go aspect is very scarey Kilgore Feb 2018 #5

I found it somewhat unnerving just to watch. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #8

Unnerving is exactly the right word for it Kilgore Feb 2018 #10

Can't miss the bulk of hardware & cameras above. Ick. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #12

hmmm turnitup Feb 2018 #27

No idea, not what I was thinking of, just the quantity of tech utilized. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #29

Someone has to design, build, soce and maintain that equipment. Adrahil Feb 2018 #40

Understood as far as skilled labor necessary for the equipment. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #52

Those aren't necessarily high skill jobs. joshcryer Feb 2018 #67

Either are these! Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #75

If I went with you and walked very closely would my food be paid for by you? redwitch Feb 2018 #26

so that is how one turnitup Feb 2018 #33

Very easy to see a few negative outcomes of this. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #9

They actually have an honor system, if you see something on your charges... joshcryer Feb 2018 #65

And when there's an utterably inexplicable error on your bill -- how do you fix it ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2018 #11

Swipe it away!!!!! Kilgore Feb 2018 #13

So if you swipe something, you can swipe ON it to prove you DIDN'T swipe it! Buns_of_Fire Feb 2018 #19

I read that sentence differently. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #61

You're right. I was jes' goofin' around, playing with it. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2018 #85

I'm going to give it a try at one of the local supermarkets here and see how it works out. Snake Plissken Feb 2018 #14

Aside from the issue of jobs loss, which I don't mean to minimize kcr Feb 2018 #16

I was like that. Iggo Feb 2018 #23

Have done the same thing myself too many times Egnever Feb 2018 #36

I was thinking the opposite kcr Feb 2018 #41

I hear ya Egnever Feb 2018 #44

Occasionally, I get to my car and find MineralMan Feb 2018 #45

Who said anything about not paying? kcr Feb 2018 #46

I wasn't accusing. Not at all. MineralMan Feb 2018 #48

A neighbor friend of relatives, middle aged woman who works for the Navy appalachiablue Feb 2018 #80

thanks n/t kcr Feb 2018 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #17

They say that at least 40% of jobs are on their way out in ten years or so, pnwmom Feb 2018 #20

Oh no, they again. BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #21

entertainment in reducing and trivializing the concerns of others to "luddite thinking." LanternWaste Feb 2018 #24

Luddites call it "being a douchebag". nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #31

And did you notice that "they" never shut up? WillowTree Feb 2018 #35

Luddites and buggywhip devotees terms are so stale, there need appalachiablue Feb 2018 #34

It's important to recognize the coming changes, and advocate for UBI. joshcryer Feb 2018 #66

What revolution? Kilgore Feb 2018 #73

I'm with you. Just didn't want to type it. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #22

Concern about the effects of automation on labor has nothing to do with Luddite thinking. kcr Feb 2018 #42

It absolutely does. BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #64

Your post had nothing to do with that and you know it. kcr Feb 2018 #84

The automobile culture is one of the ghastliest things ever created... hunter Feb 2018 #53

The insurance industry is already pushing for that idea. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #62

"All sorts of dystopias become possible with this techonology" BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #63

This is the most concerning thing, right here. joshcryer Feb 2018 #68

No jobs are unnerving. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #71

What's that? I can't hear you over the hyperbole. BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #78

What's that I can 't hear you over the greedy demands of giant rich corporations who want to cut Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #79

Local TV station consumer reporter did a story DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #18

No. Just no. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2018 #25

At first, I didn't like self-service gas stations, self-service check outs, PayPal, etc. Hoyt Feb 2018 #28

I think it depends on the product being sold. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2018 #30

what is this self service gas you speak of? crazycatlady Feb 2018 #55

I forgot there are a few states that don't allow it. Hoyt Feb 2018 #57

i need to run to seattle to try that! samnsara Feb 2018 #32

Dont go anytime near lunch Kilgore Feb 2018 #74

I would not feel comfortable shopping there. Blue_true Feb 2018 #38

Just walking out would combat a lifetime's experience. Hortensis Feb 2018 #47

Have used the store a bunch this week since its close Kilgore Feb 2018 #77

I don't think I'd enjoy it. Even the products look high tech (and overly packaged). LisaM Feb 2018 #51

I am likewise a bit suspicious that everything will be charged correctly. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #54

I will never shop in this store...never. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #69

I won't even use the 'self-check out' lines at stores Siwsan Feb 2018 #76