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RainDog

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128. if you don't like the OP, you can ignore it

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:17 AM

Jan 2012

believe me, I have more threads hidden at this time than since Michael Jackson died with the current all out assault on the whoever du jour. pol, journalist, etc.

I explained to you how people use someone who is ridiculous to show how something else is ridiculous. that's how Paul figures in, within the context of a bazillion posts about Paul on this board at this time.

If you don't like the way the post was created, you just have to suck it up and admit you cannot control everyone on this board. I know that might not be pleasant for some, but the reality is that you don't get to create posts for everyone else by making a claim.

If you don't understand why someone uses a sarcastic statement, then you don't.

But you also don't get to claim that, because you don't understand it, it has nothing to do with the post.

best of luck to you in all your endeavors.

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Yes, Ron Paul is bad. [View all] girl gone mad Jan 2012 OP

Maybe Ron Paul is wrong about that as well? Renew Deal Jan 2012 #1

All nonviolent drug offenders should be pardoned Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #6

The "Drug War" also makes a lot of money for TheDebbieDee Jan 2012 #35

Im ALL FOR legalizing marijuana but PLEASE keep heroin and cocaine less accessible. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #97

Not to mention... ellisonz Jan 2012 #143

Nope, he's very much correct on that particular point. ixion Jan 2012 #12

Do you know how exactly Paul would effectively 'end' the war on drugs as POTUS? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #29

It is a faux 'war', so ending it is as simple as saying "It's over". ixion Jan 2012 #36

I agree with you on some points and I am just asking for realistic, rational discussion. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #40

You're mixing legislation with propaganda. ixion Jan 2012 #44

WHAT!?!? *MY* solution? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #47

Please show me where I mentioned a magic wand. ixion Jan 2012 #49

The White House and the DoJ apparently waved their "Magic Wand".... bvar22 Jan 2012 #152

This is the most important reply in this thread BobbyBoring Jan 2012 #173

He might end the federal war on drugs tishaLA Jan 2012 #84

I agree. If you follow the current logic that Paul is pushing, that is exactly what would happen. stevenleser Jan 2012 #92

The ONLY reason states are passing laws is because a) The Feds do; and b) it's profitable for ixion Jan 2012 #151

And SOME states would decriminalize Pot Growing, regulate and tax the Hemp industy, bvar22 Jan 2012 #179

the way any president who wanted to do so could RainDog Jan 2012 #81

the "war on drugs" is one of the very few things Ron Paul is right about. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #20

The Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy that Obama appointed is 'right', too. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #22

Change has to start somewhere. ixion Jan 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #95

No, he's not. But that's the only thing he isn't wrong about and that's just not enough. tavalon Jan 2012 #154

Because if he says that before his second term he will lose. tridim Jan 2012 #2

Definitely, that would be horrible timing!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #4

Yep! bvar22 Jan 2012 #153

1964, pre-Faux News, pre-RW hate radio and pre-Citizen's United. tridim Jan 2012 #158

"anyone with a brain knows" that Obama did NOT have to Double Down... bvar22 Jan 2012 #159

Yep, I often wonder similar ... The damn drug war does not work, but this country remains RKP5637 Jan 2012 #3

voter sentiment can and does change RainDog Jan 2012 #82

They are such an evil force in this country, religious right. I'm not a religious person, but RKP5637 Jan 2012 #87

it's hucksterism RainDog Jan 2012 #96

Exactly the right word!!! And not only a buck, but dominance and control of RKP5637 Jan 2012 #100

sad to say RainDog Jan 2012 #113

Maybe because ending the drug war is not something POTUS can even do. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #5

Ssssh? Don't ProSense Jan 2012 #10

That's funny, because it was a POTUS (Nixon and then Reagan) who started it. ixion Jan 2012 #15

I agree that it should/could be reigned in. Current Director of the Office of National Drug Control PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #21

And not just Congress, but every state's legislature treestar Jan 2012 #27

Oh, right... then there's that. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #31

Because ProSense Jan 2012 #7

care to elaborate? as always, you do not make any sense whatsoever inna Jan 2012 #11

Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #13

lol, love the reply!! inna Jan 2012 #19

par for the course. n/t Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #16

Anyone who doesn't favor the drug war is insane by definition? cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #14

Actually ProSense Jan 2012 #17

Obama has to support the war on drugs because if he doesn't then the republicans might accuse him of limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #8

Besides, supporting the war on drugs is "bipartisan." nt hay rick Jan 2012 #24

Because he wants to get re-elected. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #9

Because the 1% rarely get busted on drug charges MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #18

guess Paul uses bait he knows will work. Whisp Jan 2012 #23

It's not just "Obama haters" who think our drug policy is insane. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #34

no disagreement from me that drug policy is all wrong. Whisp Jan 2012 #37

hahaha, you're right that's true limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #41

He's also talking out of his ass cuz he couldn't do SHIT as POTUS to end the war on drugs. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #42

"Soft on Drugs" JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #52

Well, since he's been against the Drug War going back eons, I wouldn't worry that he's 'out to get sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #68

you misunderstand Whisp Jan 2012 #76

Ron Paul wouldn't be against it because it's racist or wrong treestar Jan 2012 #25

Actually he has said it's racist and wrong. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #48

that just shows how crazy he is treestar Jan 2012 #57

Are you in favor of the Drug War? n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #69

You're misconstruing his statements. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #83

you misunderstand - those who used opium were from China RainDog Jan 2012 #85

But why should it remain legal then? treestar Jan 2012 #157

two different issues RainDog Jan 2012 #160

Really, you think the racist, Ron Paul, is 'against' the WOD because it's racist? Spazito Jan 2012 #26

That legitimizes or excuses persecuting the war on drugs how? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #45

If it "doesn't fucking matter what Paul thinks and why".... Spazito Jan 2012 #51

allow me to explain RainDog Jan 2012 #86

One cannot put forward the supposition... Spazito Jan 2012 #104

This board has been inundated with anti Ron Paul threads RainDog Jan 2012 #115

So, if I am understanding you correctly, the frustration lies not... Spazito Jan 2012 #124

if you don't like the OP, you can ignore it RainDog Jan 2012 #128

I don't have a problem with the way the post was created, I have a problem with... Spazito Jan 2012 #130

yes. may democrats win majorities RainDog Jan 2012 #131

We are in FULL agreement! Spazito Jan 2012 #135

Do you support the War on Drugs? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #70

I made it quite clear in another post of mine... Spazito Jan 2012 #79

What a totally absurd post, start to finish. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #88

To say Ron Paul, a racist, is against the WOD because it is racist.... Spazito Jan 2012 #98

The only reason Ron Paul is being 'used' if you want to call it that, is because he is the only sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #136

His use of it is antithetical to what progressives believe.... Spazito Jan 2012 #140

Because he is smart enough to know that while it will pass in a few states marlakay Jan 2012 #28

The demographics are changing, if he was elected in 2016 he'd have been all for it. joshcryer Jan 2012 #33

Ron Paul: Civil Rights Act of 1964 'Destroyed' Privacy ProSense Jan 2012 #30

Do you support the war on drugs? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #72

you won't get a reply, most likely RainDog Jan 2012 #90

Actually I believe the intention is to get as many people Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #116

could be RainDog Jan 2012 #117

You were right. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #148

I'm sure he does, however, Obama has spent much of his political career campaigning. joshcryer Jan 2012 #32

What exactly is Paul's plan to end the war on drugs as POTUS? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #38

Yes, this should be Obama's top priority!!!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #39

Look at the upside to Obama supporting drug legalization from the Oval Office. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #53

Straw man. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #139

Why the fuck would you believe Ron Paul? DevonRex Jan 2012 #43

One does not have to believe him to push Democrats in this area. If the old crazy bigot TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #58

Ron Paul's supporters are the best argument against the legalization of marijuana Galraedia Jan 2012 #46

+1 JoePhilly Jan 2012 #55

But supporting Endless War is better somehow? ixion Jan 2012 #56

Pfft please. Galraedia Jan 2012 #59

You didn't answer my question... and Pfft is not a word. ixion Jan 2012 #61

The NDAA is passed every year Galraedia Jan 2012 #64

It's a given that the rethugs are to blame. ixion Jan 2012 #73

There were too many yays and not enough nays. Galraedia Jan 2012 #80

There are people on the left who are against war abelenkpe Jan 2012 #60

You think Ron Paul doesn't support endless war? joshcryer Jan 2012 #62

A banana republic is not the endless war of empire. ixion Jan 2012 #63

It's far worse. Empires fall, banana republics live on for generations. joshcryer Jan 2012 #65

banana republics don't bomb other sovereign nations on a trumped up pretext. ixion Jan 2012 #74

I'd rather we have neither banana republics or empires, personally. joshcryer Jan 2012 #77

on that we agree. ixion Jan 2012 #78

so how do you describe the other political majorities in this nation RainDog Jan 2012 #94

Do liberals, Democrats, moderates and independents put cannabis before country? Galraedia Jan 2012 #103

I'm not defending Ron Paul RainDog Jan 2012 #112

"Put marijuana first" _ed_ Jan 2012 #155

yes, I just ignored the "put cannabis before country" bullshit RainDog Jan 2012 #165

You just won the thread. Too bad it's so pointless and dumb Number23 Jan 2012 #176

Using a third rate puke candidate's meme to bash a Democratic President. Patriot 76 Jan 2012 #54

In what way was the post bashing a Democratic President? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #91

Because he thinks the only thing the government should ban is abortion. He doesn't pnwmom Jan 2012 #66

Politics. mmonk Jan 2012 #67

Nail Meet Hammer fascisthunter Jan 2012 #71

As a Libertarian Ron Paul MUST be against the War on Drugs jmowreader Jan 2012 #75

Fuck Ron Paul! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #89

No thanks. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #93

Ohhhhhh what a gross thought! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #101

How about: FUCK, RON PAUL! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #105

Yep, now the caps work better! lol RKP5637 Jan 2012 #106

The comma makes it a completely different sentence. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #107

Oops, I missed the comma! That works!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #108

This should work better: FUUUUCK, RON PAUL! *sigh* FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #109

PS: I just read you sig. line, man does that ever make sense!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #110

Obama only pretends to be like Ron Paul when he needs to get elected Herlong Jan 2012 #99

When was that? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #102

I'm with you. I don't recall President Obama trying to be like Ron Paul EVER. stevenleser Jan 2012 #118

I don't recall Obama mzmolly Jan 2012 #171

OH, For Hevens Sake. Kokonoe Jan 2012 #111

The only candidate raising certain uncomfortable issues Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #114

Obama is not for permanent war. I have no idea why anyone would think he is. He just ended one AND stevenleser Jan 2012 #119

what's the exit strategy for the War on Drugs? RainDog Jan 2012 #120

That was one of the things they were talking about, they were also talking about Iraq and Afghanista stevenleser Jan 2012 #123

so, what's the exit strategy? RainDog Jan 2012 #125

It's not one of my top issues and certainly not for POTUS candidates stevenleser Jan 2012 #127

exactly. you can't get elected as POTUS if you don't support failed drug policy RainDog Jan 2012 #129

Sure I can bring it back on the states stevenleser Jan 2012 #132

really? RainDog Jan 2012 #134

Sure they would. They would build more corporately funded prisons where slave labor is done stevenleser Jan 2012 #137

the south already has the harshest laws overall RainDog Jan 2012 #141

Simply Untrue. bvar22 Jan 2012 #156

we were talking about state vs fed law RainDog Jan 2012 #161

btw, you don't have to take my word for it RainDog Jan 2012 #162

And intelligent, educated, "multi-cultural" people who are looking for: bvar22 Jan 2012 #164

most young people do not take jobs in the woods RainDog Jan 2012 #168

Peace Out. bvar22 Jan 2012 #169

We haven't left Iraq. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #121

We've left Iraq. A large embassy doesnt qualify as a war. Nice try though. Next? nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #122

Largest embassy on the planet. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #126

I gave this a rec. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #133

Best nutshell of this "issue" yet. DirkGently Jan 2012 #138

What makes you think that Obama does not believe the drug war is racist and wrong? joshcryer Jan 2012 #142

Of course he has by his actions. He's busting medical, that says it all and there is no TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #144

I just recall his responses about it during the campaign and he seemed really, excruciatingly... joshcryer Jan 2012 #145

I really don't care about his personal thoughts but his policies and appointments TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #146

Anyone could've predicted a staunchly moderate post-partisan would've made those appointments. joshcryer Jan 2012 #147

Doesn't Ron Paul think it's ok for Businesses to discriminate against people based on Race JI7 Jan 2012 #149

Here is why OKNancy Jan 2012 #150

...because not everyone agrees that drugs mzmolly Jan 2012 #163

you may have an opinion about whether racism is part of the drug war RainDog Jan 2012 #166

Classism mzmolly Jan 2012 #170

not according to arrest and conviction stats RainDog Jan 2012 #172

Unfortunately, more people of color live in poverty, mzmolly Jan 2012 #175

from the last stats I saw, 800,000 were arrested in 2007 for simple POSSESSION RainDog Jan 2012 #178

Yeah I find it odd that someone who I'm pretty sure is racist, has admitted racism is the driving Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #167

Ron Paul is a racist...I sincerely believe he finds the drug war racist against whites. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #174

Well at least he and the President agree that marriage equality is all nasty and wrong Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #177