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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
24. Some of them more than others.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:36 AM
Jul 2012

For example, I have more sadness for the Unibomber than I have for George Zimmerman. One's a wasted brilliant mind brought low by his psychoses whose responses to a legitimate problem were horrific...the other is a dipshit with a cop fetish who thinks God ordained him to murder an innocent for no good reason whatsoever.

I don't know what to make of Holmes. I'm positive he's nutty as a walnut cake but I really do get the vibe that he did what he did at his most lucid because he simply wants to watch the world burn. I have a hard time having sympathy for someone like that...he's almost certainly going to be brutalized or murdered in jail and I'll probably be more upset if I'm not upset about it when it happens as it bothers me to be that callous as an anti-DP activist. It brings me to the one that really wrenches me and fucks with my head; it's the one that comes closest to your question.

Inevitably, whenever I talk about things like this, I'm forced to confront the case that's closer to me than most others. I knew of the Petits, my brother knew the girls. Dr. Petit was my mom's endocrinologist. It happened one town over from the one I used to work in and two towns from the one I grew up in. I felt personally violated...I had a really hard time with that case because after 15+ years of protesting executions back to when I was 14, it was the first and only time I've ever had to ask myself: "Don't these motherfuckers actually deserve to die?" Ultimately, the answer is no...but to this day I can only reconcile it by considering that life without parole in permanent solitary might actually be worse. There's a reason why the suicide rate for those types of inmates is so high...the sentence is torture. There is something terrible about taking joy in the misery of others, even truly-evil individuals who lack any redemptive quality. Hayes at-least is dumber than wood...Komisarjevsky actively and willingly chose to be a monster, it was his lusting to f**k a 12 year old he saw in the grocery that precipitated the greater crime; a crime he thought about in great depth and strategized in advance of committing it. I cannot conceptualize of a misery that might befall him in this life or whatever afterlife might occur that equals the horror of his crime or the evil needed to commit it.

Sometimes...depends. dkf Jul 2012 #1
I feel sad for the void that's left Nostradammit Jul 2012 #2
I like that expression -- "the void that was left." So much better than "potential," which is the Brickbat Jul 2012 #11
I initially was thinking "potential" Nostradammit Jul 2012 #19
Yeah, I like that phrase, too. hamsterjill Jul 2012 #39
They could turn their anger inward Quantess Jul 2012 #3
another kick for more results Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #4
another kick for results Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #5
Absolutely not n/t MicaelS Jul 2012 #6
I get sad for whatever events led to it gollygee Jul 2012 #7
try again Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #8
Sometimes I do. Avalux Jul 2012 #9
I feel sad for the potential that was lost. I think your OP says it quite well -- no child wishes to Brickbat Jul 2012 #10
I don't believe in evil people, just flawed people doing evil deeds. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #12
More with the perpetrators family and close friends than with the actual perpetrator. Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #13
^^ This. gkhouston Jul 2012 #16
There's some hope for humanity yet, as this poll seems to be breaking 50-50 roughly. I voted coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #14
I was thinking the same thing. I expected only a few to feel any sympathy for the perpetrators. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #22
There was this wonderful surreal story a few years back about this coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #31
I remember that story. There have also been a few other stories, although they rarely get sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #38
For the adult that chose to kill? Hell no. DevonRex Jul 2012 #15
Not all of us can be Ashley Smith, eh? coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #32
I could easily do what she did. DevonRex Jul 2012 #40
She made her assailant pancakes. Could you do that? Easily? She coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #42
Of course. Whatever it takes with a smile on my face. Nt DevonRex Jul 2012 #43
Trying not to beat a dead horse, but she actually engaged her coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #44
Of course I could. You think I have no empathy? WTF? DevonRex Jul 2012 #46
Here's how you began this sub-thread (post #15): coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #47
Yes, sometimes....but soccer1 Jul 2012 #17
another one Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #18
Bit of a push poll there, Douglas. Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #20
"a lost little lamb who has gone astray,; bah, bah, bah" Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #33
No. Alduin Jul 2012 #21
My reasoning isn't the same as the polls cbrer Jul 2012 #23
Some of them more than others. Chan790 Jul 2012 #24
Once I heard Holmes sent his writings about killing to a shrink flamingdem Jul 2012 #25
No. mzmolly Jul 2012 #26
It depends. wickerwoman Jul 2012 #27
No, their decisions are their decisions. Incitatus Jul 2012 #28
While I think there are those who are monsters for no apparent explanation ... Kennah Jul 2012 #29
I can feel sorry for the family... Kalidurga Jul 2012 #30
Same here. I feel for the vicitms and the family of the shooter. n/t FSogol Jul 2012 #34
Same here. I feel sad and horrified for the perps family, HappyMe Jul 2012 #36
it really depends on the circumstances magical thyme Jul 2012 #35
another try for some resutls Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #37
one last time Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #41
I feel sadness that our society is such that it holds up a lot of illusions and lies about what life HiPointDem Jul 2012 #45
no discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #48
I feel sad for their families and loved ones Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #49
In general, no. Iggo Jul 2012 #50
Kinfolk of Jesus... kentuck Jul 2012 #51
No. Never. zappaman Jul 2012 #52
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