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The Velveteen Ocelot

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55. They taste like liver soaked in pee, but many people like venison.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:00 PM
Feb 2018

And many poor rural people depend on it.

Why is hunting so sacred? [View all] fescuerescue Feb 2018 OP
I'm not a fan of hunting, but it's not accurate to say The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #1
Pheasant ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #2
During the Depression, my father shot pheasants with a .22 FarCenter Feb 2018 #76
Boy, He Must Have Been A Good Shot!!!! ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #106
We used.22 cal cartridges filled with small shot to kill mice. nocalflea Feb 2018 #131
While I know that hunters exist and many do eat the food they catch fescuerescue Feb 2018 #6
"It seems to me that 99.9% of hunting is about the hobby, not the food." WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #8
Not even close. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #67
Excellent treatise on why some people hunt. Blue_true Feb 2018 #85
My pops made the best damn venison jerky you ever tasted. nocalflea Feb 2018 #139
Despite the philosophical ramifications, I've heard hunters say... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #144
In the last 2 years I have killed 5 deer and a hog GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #154
Exactly. forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #171
I never hunted but grew up in the country askyagerz Feb 2018 #3
Plus, many of we liberals also hunt GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #75
Yes. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #87
Yep askyagerz Feb 2018 #94
Yeah. BreweryYardRat Feb 2018 #145
It depends on what you mean by "rely." WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #4
Personally, I think venison tastes like liver soaked in pee, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #11
A lot of the taste depends on the dressing and butchering, diet of the deer, etc. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #13
Thanks for the imagery. Blue_true Feb 2018 #89
If it tastes like pee DashOneBravo Feb 2018 #166
No. Many people live subsistence Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #5
There are better ways to help those needy families fescuerescue Feb 2018 #7
Needy families aren't being helped as it is, whether they are rural or urban. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #10
Because we paying a horrible price in human lives fescuerescue Feb 2018 #24
6 million deer are killed by hunters in the U.S. every year The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #37
The guns that are used in mass murder are not hunting rifles or shotguns. Blue_true Feb 2018 #92
Bingo. Exactly right. WestMichRad Feb 2018 #114
"Hunting existed long before firearms were invented." So did starvation. EX500rider Feb 2018 #150
In general I'm against making killing easy fescuerescue Feb 2018 #183
Many people living a subsistence lifestyle Thyla Feb 2018 #22
And those people don't vote Democratic fescuerescue Feb 2018 #26
Good luck shooting a quail with a crossbow. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #29
Lots of hunters vote for the Democratic Party. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #44
Who are you to decide what is best? Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #149
Where can they hunt? treestar Feb 2018 #176
There are millions of public acres out west Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #180
That's good. treestar Feb 2018 #181
It's a barbaric hobby. killing for fun. samir.g Feb 2018 #9
Pull yourself together. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #14
Do you eat meat? MontanaMama Feb 2018 #15
Most people have cognitive dissidence when it comes to eating animals. MisterProton Feb 2018 #25
No, I don't eat meat. "Bagging a deer" is ... Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #43
But they taste so good... GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #48
Which other outrages agains human decency can be excused with "If it feels good..." nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #54
They taste like liver soaked in pee, but many people like venison. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #55
I have had some that did GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #60
That can happen MontanaMama Feb 2018 #71
Your engaging in anthropomorphism by describing them as gentle and innocent. They are neither. Marengo Feb 2018 #66
Rats with hooves djg21 Feb 2018 #148
The small group of guys I hunt with would likely surprise some of the folks here who express... Marengo Feb 2018 #168
I usually appreciate your posts MontanaMama Feb 2018 #68
There is no objective right and wrong on this issue. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #116
Thank You! TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #57
Trophy hunting, yes; it's despicable. Hunting for food, no. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #16
Donald Jr. and Eric are fans of trophy hunting LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #86
The other day a pride of lions killed and ate a poacher. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #88
I was too. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #126
I agree...Killing isn't "fun" for me.. whathehell Feb 2018 #129
My husband and son hunt MontanaMama Feb 2018 #12
+1 Ptah Feb 2018 #17
I grew up on a small farm. I have seen farm animals harvested. Blue_true Feb 2018 #97
Thanks. I appreciate your thoughts. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #101
One "harvests" crops, and "murders" living creatures. To say "harvesting" doesn't change what it is. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #117
Animals are killed. Plants are harvested. Codeine Feb 2018 #120
you are part of the problem handmade34 Feb 2018 #18
Part of our cultural is also killing kids in schools fescuerescue Feb 2018 #20
killing children handmade34 Feb 2018 #69
All of this. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #72
You list a lot of good ideas. Another area I'd consider is requiring some kind of insurance. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #91
Very well said. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #27
LOL! But you'll alienate your ally right here on DU by calling HIM names. Seems like that's OK. Squinch Feb 2018 #65
I did not call anyone a name... handmade34 Feb 2018 #73
You said he was part of the problem that is causing these slaughters. That's vile. Squinch Feb 2018 #82
I want to apologize handmade34 Feb 2018 #90
Hunting has nothing to do with owning firearms. EL34x4 Feb 2018 #19
Well yes. fescuerescue Feb 2018 #21
Who's talking about hunting? Nobody cares about hunting. EL34x4 Feb 2018 #35
Oh I agree that not much will happen. fescuerescue Feb 2018 #38
There are people who told me that today RockaFowler Feb 2018 #58
How did you call them out? My neighbor uses an AR-15 variant to hunt coyotes, and Ive used... Marengo Feb 2018 #78
I haven't used one to hunt, but I have friends who do. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #79
I don't know any hunter MontanaMama Feb 2018 #84
I suggest you google "hunting with AR-15" images. EX500rider Feb 2018 #156
Yes. The hunters in my family only have treestar Feb 2018 #177
Your post is the ignorant equivalent of pouring gasoline onto the always red hot Atticus Feb 2018 #23
Honey, Turn on the stove, got a couple of possums today! Capperdan Feb 2018 #31
You don't need a gun to gather greens or mushrooms, either, but so what? Atticus Feb 2018 #45
Those wackos are beyond reason anyway fescuerescue Feb 2018 #40
In my neck of the woods, it's not just about getting food. logosoco Feb 2018 #28
Where's the corner grocery store in the Smoky Mountains? meadowlander Feb 2018 #30
I've been to the Smoky Mountains fescuerescue Feb 2018 #34
So have I, but I don't live there. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #39
Did you grow up in a cabin there meadowlander Feb 2018 #41
No but my father did fescuerescue Feb 2018 #46
Then I guess nobody else ever does, either. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #52
Well you asked a question and I gave you an honest answer fescuerescue Feb 2018 #59
You asked "Why is hunting so sacred". meadowlander Feb 2018 #80
You forgot that many of the "poor" have a pride in thier way of life. oneshooter Feb 2018 #147
Thanks for the reasonable post. nt Atticus Feb 2018 #51
If I remember right, even in Australia, under their restrictions treestar Feb 2018 #178
It's very deer to many people's hearts underpants Feb 2018 #32
... Adrahil Feb 2018 #50
LOL underpants Feb 2018 #109
I like to swim, some people like golf, some like to hunt. Blue_true Feb 2018 #33
Fuck hunters, fuck gun fuckers, fuck gun enablers. Retrotech Feb 2018 #36
"gun enablers" fescuerescue Feb 2018 #42
Ah, well! If your gonna throw REASON at us! nt Atticus Feb 2018 #56
Someone murdering creatures who never hurt them Retrotech Feb 2018 #62
If you are not a vegan, you are eating "creatures who never hurt you". Were they Atticus Feb 2018 #74
Lollllllllllllll WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #77
Okay, here's the Arkansas redneck liberal coming out. moriah Feb 2018 #98
Reason? Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2018 #115
Much better and more morally pure to Codeine Feb 2018 #121
Aninals killed for food MontanaMama Feb 2018 #133
Some poor rural families depend on hunting for meat. Adrahil Feb 2018 #47
I dont care for Meowmee Feb 2018 #49
Grocery stores on every corner? oberliner Feb 2018 #53
There are grocery stores on almost every corner The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #63
Right - the US is a very diverse country in so many ways oberliner Feb 2018 #70
When I was growing up, there were times we wouldn't have had much... TygrBright Feb 2018 #61
I have known a few people who hunt for food. One couple were indigenous. applegrove Feb 2018 #64
I think hunting with bare hands and teeth is okay if you eat everything you kill. byronius Feb 2018 #81
You must be a vegan? MontanaMama Feb 2018 #83
Ach, spotted. byronius Feb 2018 #105
I can appreciate that. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #107
It was vegan humor, sorry. byronius Feb 2018 #108
Gotcha. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #111
There may not actually be grocery stores as convenient as you suggest but Amazon's comin'. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #93
trust me it is and thats all there is to it dembotoz Feb 2018 #95
Animals you kill yourself are not necessarily healthy for you to consume. StarryNite Feb 2018 #96
Make hunting more sporty Alwaysna Feb 2018 #99
Can you name a mass shooting that used a traditional, non-automatic hunting rifle? Pobeka Feb 2018 #100
hunting WestIndianArchie Feb 2018 #102
It's like gathering. Turbineguy Feb 2018 #103
The government took my NA ancestors guns once Runningdawg Feb 2018 #104
The treatment of Native Americans is a permanent stain on this country. roamer65 Feb 2018 #187
I do dispute needing a gun to hunt. My second cousin prefers archery. moriah Feb 2018 #110
It always cracks me up when hunters kill a deer and get a picture with it..... USALiberal Feb 2018 #112
It can be, though. It's not easy. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #118
Use a knife only and I'll be impressed. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #119
that is a gun humping coward thing Skittles Feb 2018 #172
Most of the hunters I know leftyladyfrommo Feb 2018 #113
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #122
Enjoy your stay. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #125
The firearm is indeed the issue. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #128
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #130
Hunters are weak, relying on a gun Codeine Feb 2018 #123
Wow. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #134
So bow hunting is fine with you? n/t MicaelS Feb 2018 #140
that is from some distance too Skittles Feb 2018 #155
Because it's a good way of saying "Fuck You very much"... MicaelS Feb 2018 #124
Less than 6% of the USA population went hunting in the past 12 months. That's small, Hoyt Feb 2018 #127
Generalities don't help this conversation. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #135
Sorry, fact is less than 6% hunt and shooting a bear may be good for your business, but Hoyt Feb 2018 #137
I dont disagree that 6% MontanaMama Feb 2018 #141
Enjoy Australia. I really dont have a problem with hunting rifles. Hoyt Feb 2018 #153
Well that is my point fescuerescue Feb 2018 #146
I agree. Heck, only about 33% even own a gun. And a lot less own and carry the Hoyt Feb 2018 #159
"Less than 6% of the USA population went hunting in the past 12 months. That's small" EX500rider Feb 2018 #160
Many, one time for chits and giggles. Are all the guns you own just to feed your family? Hoyt Feb 2018 #161
They frown on hunting in beach cities in Fla. EX500rider Feb 2018 #162
Population Control bpj62 Feb 2018 #132
Thank you for your thoughtful response. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #136
And most deer don't die of old age. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #138
It's all out war in the wild or even the lawn Kaleva Feb 2018 #142
Black walnut trees are particularly vicious. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #143
Not being argumentative DashOneBravo Feb 2018 #151
Hunting like that, without AR15s and similar, is OK by me. Stocking up Hoyt Feb 2018 #158
Waving a traitors flag DashOneBravo Feb 2018 #164
Well, Im Southern too and you and I know a lot of gunners are like that. Hoyt Feb 2018 #167
they enjoy killing Skittles Feb 2018 #152
My spouse and son hunt MontanaMama Feb 2018 #165
they enjoy hunting Skittles Feb 2018 #170
Yes they do. Happy now? MontanaMama Feb 2018 #174
uh huh Skittles Feb 2018 #184
Having hunting family members, I don't doubt there is some satisfaction in using a skill. moriah Feb 2018 #173
This is so well said. Thank you for saying it. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #179
it is the #1 satisfaction Skittles Feb 2018 #185
From the use of skill to kill, or just killing? moriah Feb 2018 #188
back to the food, and the population control, and "do you eat meat" Skittles Feb 2018 #189
I was actually trying to explore motivations, but your call. moriah Feb 2018 #190
Those who hunt AND eat what they kill cvoogt Feb 2018 #157
Good ideas. Most gunners are opposed to biometric IDs or other safety activation systems, thinking Hoyt Feb 2018 #169
even the tiniest impediment cvoogt Feb 2018 #191
I would never hunt but I understand why others do it. Willie Pep Feb 2018 #163
Some people really love it treestar Feb 2018 #175
I guess if you have hunted you might be able to see the answer clearer. Among many things beachbum bob Feb 2018 #182
Allowing hunting rifles and shotguns takes care of the hunting argument. roamer65 Feb 2018 #186
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