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25. can you prove that...could anyone?

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:33 PM

Feb 2018

isn't the point of ads, and messaging to be subtle enough that one thinks they were in charge of decision, and not that they were weak willed enough to be swayed by the advertising?

If not for a proven track record, all of those social psych studies, all those billions in advertising would be a waste. Trust me, if it didn't work, they wouldn't have been doing it. Interesting thing about on line social manipulation...for a person who may be teetering on a decision, or is uninformed, crowding and group think will often tilt the final decision.

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Was your vote in the 2016 primary or GE influenced by Russian meddling? [View all] jpak Feb 2018 OP

Nope. bearsfootball516 Feb 2018 #1

How would we know? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #2

I don't do Facebook or any social media jpak Feb 2018 #9

No, because I don't use Facebook. milestogo Feb 2018 #3

Good for you but we had bots and trolls on DU. hedda_foil Feb 2018 #6

And lots of them jpak Feb 2018 #10

Could Agent Mike have been.... compromised? hedda_foil Feb 2018 #39

Careful. DU moderators have given me warnings for saying Russia propagated Bernie Sanders. Corvo Bianco Feb 2018 #40

There are no DU moderators. yardwork Feb 2018 #73

Moderators? ornotna Feb 2018 #122

Not to the best of my knowledge. hedda_foil Feb 2018 #4

No, but it may have been neutralized by it. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #5

NYET. Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #7

Not mine. I never bought into the Hillary evil, Bernie pure, Trump a change agent BS. Blue_true Feb 2018 #8

I thought the world, and still do, of GWC58 Feb 2018 #88

No way! I voted for the Democratic nominee. herding cats Feb 2018 #11

No. pwb Feb 2018 #12

No, voted for Hillary both times Old Terp Feb 2018 #13

No but I do think Sanders was trolled by outsiders pretending they were his supporters... tenderfoot Feb 2018 #14

I attend a Bernie Rally with 28,000 people here in Portland Or. His support was genuine. CentralMass Feb 2018 #18

That may well be but drowning people of color out during the DNC convention isn't the behavior... tenderfoot Feb 2018 #27

Sanders delegates WERE people of color. David__77 Feb 2018 #77

The speakers that were interrupted? tenderfoot Feb 2018 #91

But how many of them were trained to hate Hillary by Russian propaganda? pnwmom Feb 2018 #45

I call your assertion ridiculous. I know of no Democrats who hated Hillary. CentralMass Feb 2018 #64

Just an FYI. She left SOS with an approval rating in the high 60s. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #78

I believe that the Russians and Republicans attacked her. CentralMass Feb 2018 #90

Keep in mind that "Democrat" can be fluid LeftInTX Feb 2018 #116

I heard plenty of Dems who hated her here, calling her an oligarch, a corporatist, a war monger. pnwmom Feb 2018 #125

That is the true crux of the biscuit... you nailed it Exotica Feb 2018 #67

Lots of them!!!!! LeftInTX Feb 2018 #118

True that. His positions have also been very well known appalachiablue Feb 2018 #71

Nope. Life long Dem. Voted for Bill Twice, supported Hillary in 2008, CentralMass Feb 2018 #15

For the record - I'm a lifelong REM jpak Feb 2018 #17

? Oh, yes :') I corrected my typo. CentralMass Feb 2018 #21

No. demmiblue Feb 2018 #16

Same here jpak Feb 2018 #19

No Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #20

My wife's was. Kaleva Feb 2018 #22

The Danger - is real jpak Feb 2018 #23

It seems that Fox News was the key factor. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #96

No. Polly Hennessey Feb 2018 #24

can you prove that...could anyone? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #25

My answer is No, and absolutely I can prove it. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #97

No, you can't prove it. nt stevenleser Feb 2018 #104

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #26

No - that was a legit question jpak Feb 2018 #35

No because I research my candidates ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #28

Hell no but it shouldnt have been allowed to go on. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #29

No, because I vote for the Democrat, irregardless.But it horribly influenced the atmosphere at DU... Hekate Feb 2018 #30

Nope. old guy Feb 2018 #31

I'm not eligible to vote (I live in Germany as a German citizen). If I was, then probably: yes. Ezior Feb 2018 #32

I disengaged from DU and other political forums for most of 2016 meadowlander Feb 2018 #33

It's getting awkward that the things I wasn't allowed to say in DU Corvo Bianco Feb 2018 #34

Mm hm. yardwork Feb 2018 #72

no, because I voted for Hillary Skittles Feb 2018 #36

YES, our votes in WI jodymarie aimee Feb 2018 #37

And I think that is PDittie Feb 2018 #93

Nope DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #38

No, but I saw a LOT of people on Twitter and FB RandomAccess Feb 2018 #41

No, but a number of my friends were negatively influenced EffieBlack Feb 2018 #42

I'd suppose the intent in the framing of this question is to illicit a universal 'no'. poboy2 Feb 2018 #43

So did I jpak Feb 2018 #46

You are discerning and informed. poboy2 Feb 2018 #52

Links to SPUTNIK News were plastered all over the place, even on liberal websites....I noticed. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #107

I think people were influenced. meadowlander Feb 2018 #121

Really? I missed the indictments for all those "condescending Hillary Clinton supporter" trolls. musicblind Feb 2018 #127

See, this is the problem. meadowlander Feb 2018 #130

voting pamdb Feb 2018 #44

Nope. nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #47

No panader0 Feb 2018 #48

Nope- but there were many I talked to pushing RT and Wikileaks garbage against Hillary and planning bettyellen Feb 2018 #49

Nope Amsterdammer Feb 2018 #50

I wasn't susceptible to russian propaganda Cha Feb 2018 #51

I don't do social media, and I vote straight Dem, so that's a big NO. nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #53

Not in the least. chuckstevens Feb 2018 #54

No. logosoco Feb 2018 #55

No, I voted for the people I personally preferred in both contests. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #56

No LyndaG Feb 2018 #57

Not mine. sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #58

Nope Generic Brad Feb 2018 #59

Nope. Glamrock Feb 2018 #60

Caucuses aren't exactly proper primaries. joshcryer Feb 2018 #61

Wait- you really think there were lots of Russian agent accounts here? David__77 Feb 2018 #99

Sources. joshcryer Feb 2018 #111

No I supported Hillary. wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #62

No. Only other people's votes were. marybourg Feb 2018 #63

Nope mvd Feb 2018 #65

Yeah I am not big on social media either. Willie Pep Feb 2018 #89

No way I don't do social media, watch Fox News, listen to anything a republican says and blueinredohio Feb 2018 #66

no Takket Feb 2018 #68

Yes but not in the way you think. And the question needs to be reframed, IMO GusBob Feb 2018 #69

From what I've read, the Russians wanted to help Trump. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #98

Goes to intent your honor GusBob Feb 2018 #103

Yep JustAnotherGen Feb 2018 #70

I'm with you, at least for the general. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #108

No-I voted on the issues. jalan48 Feb 2018 #74

Not mine.....n/t prairierose Feb 2018 #75

We were all targeted. The talking points were regurgitated on DU as well. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #76

No. underthematrix Feb 2018 #79

Only if you think that Russian meddling got me to vote for Bernie in the Primary and then Stonepounder Feb 2018 #80

It was influenced by wanting to avert a Democratic loss in the general. David__77 Feb 2018 #81

Of course not davekriss Feb 2018 #82

Yes Beakybird Feb 2018 #83

Not mine Gothmog Feb 2018 #84

Nope gopiscrap Feb 2018 #85

of course not, but without a doubt both primaries were for many peoe AlexSFCA Feb 2018 #86

Nope Leith Feb 2018 #87

No. nancy1942 Feb 2018 #92

Not even the Republicans I know PDittie Feb 2018 #94

your thoughts are worth repeating questionseverything Feb 2018 #113

If it was, most people likely wouldnt know it so this question wont get stevenleser Feb 2018 #95

I was a Clinton voter in the primary and one in the general Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #100

No. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #101

Not mine but - OhZone Feb 2018 #102

No. I sure saw and heard a lot of crap MuseRider Feb 2018 #105

Bernie announced on april 28 2015. I made my decision to vote for him Tiggeroshii Feb 2018 #106

Not remotely JackInGreen Feb 2018 #109

Mine wasn't, but my wife's was Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #110

Nope. HRC all the way. we can do it Feb 2018 #112

Nope. Only viable choice was HRC. roamer65 Feb 2018 #114

I voted for Bernie in the primary, but Hillary in the general LeftInTX Feb 2018 #115

Not even remotely. I chose my primary candidate b/c of economic policies and the vote on Iraq... SMC22307 Feb 2018 #117

Nope Sunsky Feb 2018 #119

No. H2O Man Feb 2018 #120

Nope n/t ornotna Feb 2018 #123

I voted for Hillary and I don't care who knows it! Initech Feb 2018 #124

absolutely not vlyons Feb 2018 #126

I don't know. I hope not, but I don't know. musicblind Feb 2018 #128

Nor was anyone else's GaryCnf Feb 2018 #129

Nope. GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #131