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HappyMe

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56. People are always quick with the

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:54 AM

Jul 2012

'blame movies/hip hop/video games' meme.
If people don't like shoot 'em movies, then don't go. The facts you presented clearly show that.

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Director Peter Bogdanovich: What If Movies Are Part of the Problem? [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2012 OP

Anymore, I would say video games KT2000 Jul 2012 #1

It's a game. I normally feel nothing. white_wolf Jul 2012 #5

Thanks for sharing that flamingdem Jul 2012 #11

There's a massive, massive difference between killing someone in a fantasy XemaSab Jul 2012 #13

That's how I feel... white_wolf Jul 2012 #14

And now, back to Q3CTF4. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #19

Did you notice? loyalsister Jul 2012 #15

I see what you are saying.... white_wolf Jul 2012 #16

I wasn't accusing you loyalsister Jul 2012 #29

Eh, no Confusious Jul 2012 #62

The "enemies" aren't even human Confusious Jul 2012 #65

The fact that you feel nothing would seem to indicate that you are becoming desensitized. grantcart Jul 2012 #54

The real question is... Alduin Jul 2012 #61

No the real question is does constant exposure to violent images cause grantcart Jul 2012 #66

Oh please Confusious Jul 2012 #64

I feel nothing when I kill someone in a video game... Alduin Jul 2012 #60

The same thing I do when I win a game Confusious Jul 2012 #70

Video Games. Comics. Movies. kenny blankenship Jul 2012 #93

Excellent question. We know advertisements affect people's behavior. Why not movies? n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #2

so whats the answer ban any movie violence, ban the games loli phabay Jul 2012 #3

It would be easy to change the ratings system XemaSab Jul 2012 #6

i agree with changing the rating system, as to the imagination thing i get that as well loli phabay Jul 2012 #9

Maybe the answer is directors and producers and movie fans asking these questions pnwmom Jul 2012 #8

Excellent point. HCE SuiGeneris Jul 2012 #17

"Suggestion" used to work in the old days--for sex or violence. Not so much now, people are used to MADem Jul 2012 #27

lol or the train going into the tunnel or the steamstack on a ship loli phabay Jul 2012 #30

Catcher in the Rye led to two assassination attempts 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #48

My Bosnian roommate and I went to "The Matrix" and she couldn't stand it XemaSab Jul 2012 #4

I can't watch a lot of movies now Irishonly Jul 2012 #72

good point reorg Jul 2012 #76

well, movies sometimes are like booklets with instructions AlphaCentauri Jul 2012 #7

the worst is the kids movies, i watched tangled and now i know how to steal a crown loli phabay Jul 2012 #10

Actually abelenkpe Jul 2012 #58

I agree, including the part about showing violence in other ways being more effective & chilling. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #12

excorcist, salems lot both give me the heebie jeebies, james mason is just immense. loli phabay Jul 2012 #23

Despite... GTurck Jul 2012 #18

What if Duh? 6000eliot Jul 2012 #20

Today they STILL don't show the child murder. slampoet Jul 2012 #21

Have you seen "The Hunger Games"? FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #96

25+ year old actors with wimpy weapons? slampoet Jul 2012 #97

And the actors were depicting children being killed. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #101

And i am talking Not about adult looking actors. slampoet Jul 2012 #102

Oh for chrissakes. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #105

don't foreigners watch a lot of the same shit we do JI7 Jul 2012 #22

yup and some of the foreign movies are much more graphic than hollywood. loli phabay Jul 2012 #24

Do not google "Ichi the Killer". Zalatix Jul 2012 #26

hell even the japanese cartoons are downright scarey lol loli phabay Jul 2012 #28

"maybe they internalise it and it comes out a different way. " eShirl Jul 2012 #31

there you go then, thats their valve loli phabay Jul 2012 #32

Being a smart guy, he didn't say movies were the sole problem but that they could be part of the cali Jul 2012 #25

This. Also, domestic violence is a huge problem in Japan. redqueen Jul 2012 #57

The Japanese have churned out some insanely violent movies 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36

The Japanese movied "Battle Royal" comes to mind. Javaman Jul 2012 #38

There was a lot of domestic violence when I lived there in the 70's. I don't know how it is now. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #104

What happened to society that we need all this violence in our "entertainment" liberal N proud Jul 2012 #33

The reality does not support that statement at all. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #37

Oh no! Stop it with those HappyMe Jul 2012 #40

I am particularly bothered by that fact free argument as it blames both filmmakers and the Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #42

I think it's worth noting that the violent spree-killer in question 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46

Much like the person who shoot people at that Unitarian Church had not listened to the sermon... Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #51

People are always quick with the HappyMe Jul 2012 #56

Did you see Harry potter? abelenkpe Jul 2012 #69

MEDIA VIOLENCE: FACTS & STATISTICS liberal N proud Jul 2012 #50

You said "A movie doesn't draw a crowd unless someone is getting blown up" Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #55

I thought since you were citing FTC's report from 12 years ago, I'd offer up some of the reaction Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #63

I'll tell you what happened to society... Javaman Jul 2012 #43

The actual lists of top grossing films do not support this theory that 'sensationalism' w/ Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #49

You don't think the first 5 movies on that last aren't over the top mellow drama? Javaman Jul 2012 #59

Wow. Harry Potter is 'vulgar'. Got it. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #68

so you only took "vulgar" from the definition. Javaman Jul 2012 #80

I said many other things which you simply refuse to address. It is you who is taking one word Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #84

and I guess you missed the part where I said... Javaman Jul 2012 #85

Yeah, I did not say I was done however. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #88

Let your ego run free. nt Javaman Jul 2012 #99

Exactly abelenkpe Jul 2012 #74

+1 nt Javaman Jul 2012 #81

Don't Canadians and Europeans see the same movies and play the same games we do? GOTV Jul 2012 #34

Yeah but they lose something when converting to metric 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #47

Hilarious :) GOTV Jul 2012 #94

Yes, they do ailsagirl Jul 2012 #53

well, an argument could me made that they have an effect there, too ... reorg Jul 2012 #71

I'd say it's the hip-hop music kids are always listening to on their boomboxes or on the music TV 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #35

Get off my lawn! Swede Jul 2012 #44

Bogdonavich's first film was about a crazed mass murdering shooter. 'Targets' it was called. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #39

I'm glad somebody pointed this out Blecht Jul 2012 #75

so, how did this film "brutalize the audience"? reorg Jul 2012 #77

I don't recall saying that it did so. I simply find Peter's words to be less than forthcoming Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #82

did he show violence then reorg Jul 2012 #83

My point was that Peter leaves his own work out of the equation when his own work actually Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #87

I don't see it reorg Jul 2012 #95

just watched "Targets" and can now confirm that you're not telling the truth reorg Jul 2012 #100

After reading "Killing of the Unicorn", I am convinced that Bogdonavich doesn't get irony Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #86

Exactly. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #91

The example of 'Dorothy' -killed by someone who came from another country. randome Jul 2012 #41

They must really pack the theaters in Syria. Swede Jul 2012 #45

"We're brutalizing the audience. We're going to end up like the Roman circus, live at the Coliseum." BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #52

For the most part, I disagree that movies and video games have much influence on us. randome Jul 2012 #67

I think Locrian Jul 2012 #73

does Bogdanovich have regulations in mind? reorg Jul 2012 #78

Sorry, entertainment is a reflection of society thelordofhell Jul 2012 #79

You win the thread. Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #89

some movies are reflections of society grasswire Jul 2012 #90

Go see a movie in another country thelordofhell Jul 2012 #98

advertisements have influence on us -- why would the same not be true of movies? grasswire Jul 2012 #92

I feel more like movies, music, video games, art etc. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #103