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TwilightGardener

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5. When I hear "job training", I assume one is speaking of taking a high school grad and putting him
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jul 2012

though some sort of six-week or six-month job-specific training program (and then the company hires him, hopefully). But those already exist, they're called community colleges and for-profit schools, and there are millions of people out there footing the bill for their OWN training in the hopes of getting an edge on their competitors for that elusive job. So why would the government or companies want to pay for this, when there are enough people WITH the desired education or certification already who can't find work?

I offer my husband as an example--he is seeking an IT security job (having done this in the military), everyone he worked with in IT a couple years ago told him that CISSP was the hot new thing, and he should get a CISSP certification. So he studied for six months, spent hundreds of dollars, and got certified. And...nothing. No one is interested in THIS particular certification anymore, apparently. And now employers want a shitload of other stuff ALONG with security certification: ITIL, PMP, CCNA--the fucking certifications never end, and he simply has to pay the money, spend the time chasing them, hoping they're still "hot" when he finally finishes them. Still no guarantee that anyone will hire him, of course, and the jobs that ARE out there are offering him what they used to pay new grads 10 years ago ($42,000 for a network administrator??). He is having an impossible time trying to figure out WHAT these people want. Yesterday he lost out on a job because he didn't have enough experience with their particular VOIP phone system. He could learn that shit in weeks. It's fucking ridiculous.

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The only "skills mismatch" that appears to exist is that businesses want to hire employees that TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #1
Agreed with this Xyzse Jul 2012 #2
Bingo. Scuba Jul 2012 #9
Yes, that is the fantasy of every bad manager Mopar151 Jul 2012 #11
+1. Just a touch over 30 years ago, companies still had the attitude that they were hiring gkhouston Jul 2012 #21
Seems like the problem has an obvious solution Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #3
When I hear "job training", I assume one is speaking of taking a high school grad and putting him TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #5
It's ad-speak.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #4
I've witnessed this, and don't know what the answer is... TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #6
American employers aren't ready to pay Americans for their skills. hay rick Jul 2012 #7
I would like for use to raise the minimum wage while working on 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8
How much would a head of lettuce cost if the pickers made $20 an hour, though? TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #10
Not much 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #12
Going from $4/day to $160/day is way more than a 40% increase. nt NickB79 Jul 2012 #13
I was exaggerating with the 4 bucks per day 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #14
See, now you're talking a few bucks more per hour, not zooming from $4 to $20. TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #15
I'm amazed at the opposition on this website to increasing the minimum wage 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #16
I'd love a minimum wage of $25 an hour, but then all wages would have had to increase TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #17
You don't think that would happen? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #19
We need to start offering incentives for keeping Americans employed. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #18
A story conconcted to screw us. All workers organize, it's the only way to get any leverage.. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #20
American workers Aerows Jul 2012 #22
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