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Summer Hathaway

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68. Being as this is a thread about Greenwald

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:08 AM

Jan 2012

I thought that's what the discussion was about.

Anyway, I don't agree with any of your assessment of the Obama administration. But there won't be any mind changing going on either way, so I'll leave it at that.

As for Greenwald, he is not being "attacked" as the messenger of disagreement with Obama's policies.

I know you've seen the many threads on this topic. What is being brought to the fore is Greenwald's playing fast and loose with the facts, 'joking' about how Obama supporters would excuse Obama if he raped a nun, promoting the "good side" of a homophobic racist like Ron Paul - you're read the quotes cited (Greenwald's own words) as well as I have.

Perhaps people here are just piling on Greenwald because they want him to be "held accountable", make him a better journalist by "holding his feet to the fire" ... and so on.

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Glenn Greenwald Jokes about President Obama Raping a Nun [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

glen being glen dionysus Jan 2012 #1

He ProSense Jan 2012 #3

That explains the wagon-circling around the poor picked-on fella. CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #4

I remember that well. The photo-diarist was chased off that site the vitriol got so bad. banned from Kos Jan 2012 #15

It was a "she". The Obama bashers are fighting a Potemkin village constructed by the likes of GG. banned from Kos Jan 2012 #26

Hey, which DUer did he call simple-minded? Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #17

Nope, it was in a full-fledged opinion column on Salon... Spazito Jan 2012 #38

Wow, that was extraordinarily long and bad. The logic he used was like following a spaghetti noodle. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #56

What is even more mindboggling is that... Spazito Jan 2012 #63

Glen being a gigantic dick is more like it. whathehell Jan 2012 #61

Can we merge all of these Greenwald threads together? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #2

There isn't a move/merge option on DU3, Tx4obama Jan 2012 #9

Maybe ProSense Jan 2012 #10

Okay. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #46

"A wide range of Twitter users were outraged" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #5

And the smears continue. baldguy Jan 2012 #6

Maybe we should just admit that we lost this one to the MoRon's. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #8

Two days ago Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #18

Greenwald certainly won't suffer. baldguy Jan 2012 #35

Funny how the economy is recovering under the policies you insist are disasterous. TheWraith Jan 2012 #45

Still pushing the recovery story? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #47

Your attempt to spin away success is not working. TheWraith Jan 2012 #69

There is and has been no recovery. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #128

where do you see it recovering? getdown Jan 2012 #65

Meaning? Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #59

This isn't about Greenwald. baldguy Jan 2012 #64

Being as this is a thread about Greenwald Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #68

So, a second-rate pundit can be "held accountabe" but the President of the United States can't? baldguy Jan 2012 #72

I thought you might find it amusing Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #74

If you have a valid criticism of Greenwald, rather than these ad hominem attacks, then post it. baldguy Jan 2012 #87

Again Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #95

Thought so. baldguy Jan 2012 #101

A "good progressive columnist" Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #104

Sorry, but you are just making things up here TiberiusB Jan 2012 #156

If had bothered to READ Greenwald's actual columns rather than just the headlines baldguy Jan 2012 #125

Greenwald is neither good nor effective. TheWraith Jan 2012 #34

How has he been "hyping" Ron Paul? baldguy Jan 2012 #43

I seem to have been accused of "hyping" Ron Paul, too.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #49

What's the point? TheWraith Jan 2012 #50

So, you can't provide such evidence. baldguy Jan 2012 #54

Here he is in his words on video oberliner Jan 2012 #159

When exactly has Glen Greenwald ever been a popular or effective progressive talking head? mythology Jan 2012 #75

Popularity: baldguy Jan 2012 #78

I had never heard of glenn greenwald until I joined DU and saw all the Greenwald hysteria limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #7

Who is Glen Greenwald? Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Odin2005 Jan 2012 #11

Sickening! n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Odin2005 Jan 2012 #19

Do you seriously think that Barack Obama is liable to start raping nuns on television? Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #20

I refuse to get into an arugment with posters looking for a fight. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #22

I'm not looking for a fight. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #24

It was an analogy using a hypothetical situation. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #28

It was a joke. And it certainly was about Obama! Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #32

When ProSense Jan 2012 #37

Wow, you don't see that saying Obama supporters... one_voice Jan 2012 #31

That is absolutely gross and completely out of line, and stillwaiting Jan 2012 #126

Meant to post this as a response to the OP. Comment not directed specifically to you one_voice! stillwaiting Jan 2012 #127

Sadly, they've defended worse. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #130

Christ, it just keeps getting worse all the time. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #12

Of course the twitter feed does not support the headline, but never mind. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #13

So ProSense Jan 2012 #16

Saying that Greenwald made a rape joke is a lie. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #25

Sadly, no, it's not a lie. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #29

It is a lie. Bonobo Jan 2012 #166

We obviously aren't going to agree on this, so why keep picking at it? Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #168

Well ProSense Jan 2012 #30

I have often heard the same 'joke' applied to objects of personality-cultists of all sorts Occulus Jan 2012 #62

I read the whole exchange and I can't find it either. Did he RT the 'joke'? joshcryer Jan 2012 #23

It looks like DrDawg was able to pull his tweets from that Chirpstory. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #27

Ahh, I see what happened: joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #33

Warren jumped the gun, the guy who originally made the joke deleted it. joshcryer Jan 2012 #39

She provided the whole context of all of the twitters tabatha Jan 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author brentspeak Jan 2012 #48

Here's some "whole context" for you brentspeak Jan 2012 #51

I don't know about every item that is posted, because I don't have time to read all of DU. tabatha Jan 2012 #53

Sure she is. She is damned well-known for being truthful and honest. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #52

Very dishonest. But hey, par for the course as GG said. Election season is upon us and sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #57

WE GET IT GLENN, YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #21

GOT HIM!!!! Enrique Jan 2012 #40

Really ProSense Jan 2012 #44

The "outrage" comes across as disingenuous to me. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #129

Funny, leftist outrage about Obama comes off the same way to me WonderGrunion Jan 2012 #160

I, sadly, have come to the conclusion that GG is a human piece of filth. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #41

who's Glenn Greenwald? getdown Jan 2012 #55

The story is misleading, the rape reference (while tacky) is taken out of context rocktivity Jan 2012 #58

There ProSense Jan 2012 #60

Lol! Character Assassination Underground whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #66

I ProSense Jan 2012 #67

I don't like duplicity n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #70

And ProSense Jan 2012 #71

Ok whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #73

Good question. What has happened is that people are rallying around GG sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #112

That headline is false. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #113

Hell, even I will rec this. I hope it gets more recs than any DU post EVAH! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #76

Monument to madness whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #82

He should have joked, like Obama did, about killing people with drones! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #88

Lol, DU has been discredited enough the past few days. I just can't contribute to that by sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #115

I can respect that and thank for the kick! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #117

No problem, thanks for posting the facts. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #118

Here are a couple of more comments by Greenwald later in this exchange: cpwm17 Jan 2012 #135

And President Obama jokes about the little single payer advocates at his town hall forum, video ... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #77

Yeah, ProSense Jan 2012 #79

No, not the same, but one is the President of the US and the other writes a column ... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #80

Remember when Obama joked about killing people with drones? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #83

Yes, not very funny if your child was killed by one though. n/t slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #86

I wish I could rec this thread 1000 times! Winning! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #81

Rape jokes are funny, huh? n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #84

As funny as making a joke about killing people with drones. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #89

So you're ProSense Jan 2012 #97

No more offensive than all those DU threads about rightwingers raping goats. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #99

Yeah, that's Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #90

Hey! I laughed when the President joked about killing the Jonas brothers with drones! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #92

Yes, that doesn't surprise me at all Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #93

I was undecided about Glenn Greenwald until this point. Zalatix Jan 2012 #85

I think you must not have read through all the links. The headline is false. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #120

Seems like HBGary took over DU this weekend. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #131

It's truly madness, Cameron27 Jan 2012 #141

Does the new DU archive posts or can I kick this thread for the next 11 months? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #91

My guess would be you'll find plenty of new stuff Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #94

Impatient? Nope. This thread has so much win that I want to keep it at the top Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #96

Of course you do. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #98

Thanks for helping me keep this kicked! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #100

No problem, friend. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #103

It's called hyperbole... MellowDem Jan 2012 #105

Oh please! Don't disturb the umbrage with common sense! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #106

Rape hyperbole? Rape analogy. Rape joke. Disgusting! n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #108

It's a political joke... MellowDem Jan 2012 #110

Seriously ProSense Jan 2012 #111

Unlike Obama's joke about his unaccountable killing machines... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #116

Hey, when you want to silence someone, anything goes. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #119

it's almost as if SixthSense Jan 2012 #109

Kick. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #107

class act Whisp Jan 2012 #114

In this thread, DUers defend GG's continuation of a vile rape joke. joshcryer Jan 2012 #121

Yep. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #122

^-see joshcryer Jan 2012 #123

Yes, if an Obama-hater on the far left says it, it's okay. geek tragedy Jan 2012 #124

Anything? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #132

Leave Glenn ALONE!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #133

Smart folks whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #134

Really? Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #139

Agree. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #140

GG was joking about the Blogger. But don't let that stop the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #148

He is not a journalist. He is an Obama-hater with a bullhorn. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #136

How many times have I read here that "GW could eat a baby on TV and no one would care" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #137

Alternative headline: "Greenwald says that rape is evil" is more accurate. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #138

I prefer your more accurate headline: "Greenwald says that rape is evil" cpwm17 Jan 2012 #142

He is absolutely correct about that particular blogger. She sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #149

+1000 n/t slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #143

And ProSense Jan 2012 #145

His problem is that he expects us to agree with his conclusions treestar Jan 2012 #144

shows how inflammatory getdown Jan 2012 #146

"It wasn't a joke of any kind: it was a *deadly serious point* about blind defenders of evil acts... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #147

Seems ProSense Jan 2012 #150

Killing innocent people with drones is funny though ... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #154

Crickets again ProSense? n/t slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #155

No ProSense Jan 2012 #157

This recent tactic of one word subject lines in a reply is pretty annoying ... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #163

Greenwald could kill a kitten and post the video at Salon.com... SidDithers Jan 2012 #151

Know these mudslinging operatives by their words. Vinnie From Indy Jan 2012 #152

Sad the lengths people will go to protect and support someone they agree with, even when that person DFab420 Jan 2012 #153

During the 8 years of Bush -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #158

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #161

Kicking this into the face of the disingenuous, intellectually dishonest people who threw this crap Bonobo Jan 2012 #164

I would love to hear ProSense actually respond to this. Maybe I will do some kicking for a while. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #165

The hysterical faux outrage in this thread whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #162

Oh goody! My favorite thread on DU3 is back on top! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #167

Disgusting little man. Whisp May 2014 #169