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Exotica

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85. Your list is wrong

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:16 AM

Feb 2018

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/h80

Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) voted No
Terri Sewell (D-Ala.) voted No
Thomas Suozzi (D-N.Y.) voted No

Jim Costa (D-Calif.) did not vote

12 Democrats voted to pass it

these 7 you did correctly list

Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.)
Ami Bera (D-Calif.)
Scott Peters (D-Calif.)
Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.)
Jackie Speier (D-Calif.)
J. Luis Correa (D-Calif.)
Henry Cuellar (D-Texas)

but forgot these 5

Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.)
Kurt Schrader (D-Oregon)
Bill Foster (D-IL)
Collin Peterson (D-MN)
Norma Torres (D-Calif.)

More Dems not voting

Karen Bass (D-CA)
Joe Courtney (D-CT)
Theodore Deutch (D-FL)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
Sanford Bishop (D-GA)
Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL)
Elijah Cummings (D-MD)

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Here is a list of Democrats opposing Americans with Disabilities Act [View all] NCDem777 Feb 2018 OP

You saying these Dems would want the Disabilities Act tossed in the dumpster,or some parts of it? Bengus81 Feb 2018 #1

Can you give context on this? Caliman73 Feb 2018 #2

I will let Tammy Duckworth give the context NCDem777 Feb 2018 #4

Thank you. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #10

It just exited committee and may be voted on in the next week NCDem777 Feb 2018 #12

Here's Bob Casey's full statement explaining why it's a bad bill.linked from propublica hedda_foil Feb 2018 #38

Source? Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #3

Thanks, Yonnie SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #5

A six month waiting period for civil rights. I'd call that inflammatory NCDem777 Feb 2018 #8

I understand your point. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #13

Your OP was misleading. Blue_true Feb 2018 #21

It's been law for 27 years NCDem777 Feb 2018 #22

What part of ... have had 27 years to make their services accessible to all... GeorgeGist Feb 2018 #40

What part of most small businesses are less than 2 years old didn't you understand? nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #41

Then they should have been aware fifthoffive Feb 2018 #91

I read the links later provided. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #9

The modification would all but kill it. It would be toothless. NCDem777 Feb 2018 #16

I have yet to form an opinion. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #23

It's not analogous to compare the Civil Rights Acts and the ADA mythology Feb 2018 #35

Here's what DREDF--a preeminent (and very progressive) thucythucy Feb 2018 #53

Have you looked at the other links provided-- thucythucy Feb 2018 #58

It's not as though businesses haven't had 27 years to get up to code NCDem777 Feb 2018 #6

"It's not as though businesses haven't had 27 years to get up to code" NCTraveler Feb 2018 #14

It's been law for 27 years NCDem777 Feb 2018 #17

You really don't see how flawed your comment is? NCTraveler Feb 2018 #27

Suppose, instead of disability access, we were talking fire codes. thucythucy Feb 2018 #56

I was just recently given ninety days to bring ourselves... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #70

Wow. Were you not aware of the code thucythucy Feb 2018 #74

EVERY business is at least 27 years old? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #34

Yes because small businesses have been on top of fixing violations of the ADA for the last 27 years. Autumn Feb 2018 #24

Most on that list are from New York or California. There are a lot R B Garr Feb 2018 #42

We have those who don't comply here and in places other than NY or CA. Gutting Autumn Feb 2018 #43

The posted list shows places in California and New York, R B Garr Feb 2018 #44

If they have been there a year or two they have had time to comply, I haven't seen any glee. YMMV nt Autumn Feb 2018 #45

Yes, as long as Democrats are primaried, it doesnt matter R B Garr Feb 2018 #46

Letting politicians know that they can't roll back Civil Rights is something to get behind Autumn Feb 2018 #47

More of the thread shows the OP to be misleading R B Garr Feb 2018 #48

I will defer to what Tammy Duckworth had to say about it instead of the opinions of Autumn Feb 2018 #50

I didnt see anything about primarying Democrats R B Garr Feb 2018 #51

Of course she said nothing about primarying Democrats, neither did I. One can discuss the Autumn Feb 2018 #54

Yes, that should be an awareness of a cost of doing R B Garr Feb 2018 #67

It fits into the category of gutting a Civil Rights Act, gutting the ADA harms actual people. Autumn Feb 2018 #68

New York and California are both very liberal states. R B Garr Feb 2018 #69

No, it shows that lots of people, even progressive Democrats, don't understand what the ADA is thucythucy Feb 2018 #57

The politicians targeted are from California and New York, R B Garr Feb 2018 #65

Upstate New York thucythucy Feb 2018 #75

I am very familiar, too, with the ADA R B Garr Feb 2018 #79

Who's "attacking California?" thucythucy Feb 2018 #86

Ive seen the ADA work done in my state for decades. R B Garr Feb 2018 #87

I posted links for you to look at. thucythucy Feb 2018 #89

I KNOW all about the ADA. I have seen the work done on R B Garr Feb 2018 #92

LOL, and it looks like you are the one rubbed the wrong R B Garr Feb 2018 #93

You're saying there's a direct link between the ADA thucythucy Feb 2018 #59

I doubt the spirit of the law is to bankrupt people R B Garr Feb 2018 #64

There are some purple districts thucythucy Feb 2018 #73

Putting notches on the belts of the Revolution R B Garr Feb 2018 #82

No one is "lecturing the state." thucythucy Feb 2018 #88

I KNOW people have worked hard on the ADA. R B Garr Feb 2018 #90

You're obviously not reading the OP thucythucy Feb 2018 #94

You are just talking to yourself at this point. R B Garr Feb 2018 #95

Still not getting it. thucythucy Feb 2018 #96

Same to you. How ludicrous and pathetic to R B Garr Feb 2018 #97

This statement is pretty weak gratuitous Feb 2018 #28

Thank you! thucythucy Feb 2018 #60

Inexcusable. Laffy Kat Feb 2018 #7

Clint Eastwood loyalsister Feb 2018 #66

Because of the ADAs interaction with a CA statute hardluck Feb 2018 #72

You aren't demanding purity. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #11

Thank you! You're correct... the post is deceptive and misleading. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #25

I call it like it is NCDem777 Feb 2018 #33

Here's what DREDF (Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund) thucythucy Feb 2018 #61

Can you provide more information? Blue_true Feb 2018 #15

They support HR 620 NCDem777 Feb 2018 #19

Do you recognize a couple of things? Blue_true Feb 2018 #29

And small businesses have help from the government NCDem777 Feb 2018 #32

not all...almost none get financial help from the Govt...they get info. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #36

Most landlords force the tenets to make and pay for the improvements. Blue_true Feb 2018 #37

What are you referring to? Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #18

I read this very carefully...this has been around since September. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #20

TRASHED. This is misleading. DinahMoeHum Feb 2018 #26

It is actually not misleading. It is lacking context and explanation but not misleading. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #39

Thank you for taking the time thucythucy Feb 2018 #63

Yes, it certainly looks like a bad bill. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #71

5 from California? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #30

I've worked in non ADA compliant buildings crazycatlady Feb 2018 #31

No.. there's a difference between "purity" Cha Feb 2018 #49

Here's the DREDF (Disability Rights and Education Defense Fund) take on this: thucythucy Feb 2018 #52

Thank you for posting this. thucythucy Feb 2018 #55

Here's some more detail on why this bill is a bad idea: thucythucy Feb 2018 #62

Jackie got an angry letter from me this weekend. Starry Messenger Feb 2018 #76

I would urge anyone living in one of those districts thucythucy Feb 2018 #77

2018 is not the year for that. wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #78

2018 is not the year Dems need to be betraying the disabled either NCDem777 Feb 2018 #80

Preach it! They *all* need primarying... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #81

Out of curiosity NCDem777 Feb 2018 #84

Many businesses think there is a grandfather clause but that's no longer true Kaleva Feb 2018 #83

Your list is wrong Exotica Feb 2018 #85

Thank you for the correction. thucythucy Feb 2018 #98

Please include, in your OP, the context. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #99