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163. Not NRA. Could be National Shooting Sports Foundation and/or Safari Club Int'l

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:20 AM

Feb 2018

The OP mischaracterized the article. The article does not say "NRA," it says "gun lobby" and it says "NRA and other gun groups" -- and if you click through to the source data, it shows that that the NRA gave about $10k to all Dems combined (and so on its face could not possibly have given $11k to ANY single Dem), while Safari Club International gave about $30k to Dems and National Shooting Sports Foundation gave about $22k.

This means that, while we can't fully determine the exact breakdown from there, Sanders' $11k and Clinton's $26k of contributions would have had to have come more from the other two organizations than from the NRA. If I had to guess, I would say Sanders' support was probably more from NSSF, as they are centered not far from Vermont, and I think are focussed more on local as opposed to international hunting.

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2016: Bernie Sanders among top 25 of Congressional recipients of NRA donations [View all] pnwmom Feb 2018 OP

And NRA got money from Russia, dont forget that. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1

So by extension he was a russian plant? When he endorsed hillary, did that make her a russian plant? Tiggeroshii Feb 2018 #6

No, it means he took a lot of money from the NRA. dawg day Feb 2018 #44

Bernie Sanders took NO NRA money in 2016, per opensecrets.org. Bluepinky Feb 2018 #55

You are correct. The article seems to be WRONG. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #71

According to Open Secrets, BS took $11,129 from gun rights lobbyists in 2016. lapucelle Feb 2018 #141

And per your link, Hillary took over 26,000 dollars from the same sources. Bluepinky Feb 2018 #145

Yes I know. HRC received over $1M from gun guntrol groups as well. lapucelle Feb 2018 #147

You are right. There seems to be too much money given by too many groups trying to buy votes. Bluepinky Feb 2018 #148

That's why we need to be aware of who casts the pro-gun votes in Congress. lapucelle Feb 2018 #150

Yes, the gun votes will remain while the empty attempts R B Garr Feb 2018 #173

As per the Congressional Record, lapucelle Feb 2018 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Feb 2018 #56

Whoa! Hands off, a certain senator from a small state can't be criticized here. brush Feb 2018 #30

I want to see tax returns also...yep. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #32

Same here Gothmog Feb 2018 #35

So do I lunamagica Feb 2018 #86

Why can't we see them? What is the explanation given? nt jrthin Feb 2018 #101

Good questions. I too want to see tax returns. calimary Feb 2018 #127

Aint that the truth brush......... Old Vet Feb 2018 #52

Please don't 4nic8em Feb 2018 #161

New York is actually pretty big state. brush Feb 2018 #170

yep and he shamelessly voted against russia sanctions. will never forget this career defining vote AlexSFCA Feb 2018 #80

That was a disappointment. It revealed much to me... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #91

K&R Gothmog Feb 2018 #2

Not surprised at all. nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #3

self delete leftstreet Feb 2018 #4

But did Sanders get an A+++ rating by the NRA? mwooldri Feb 2018 #5

No. he gets a D-. Several Democrats get As though n/t leftstreet Feb 2018 #10

His highest ranking (from 1992 to present) Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #12

Why did take more than $11K from the NRA at the same time pnwmom Feb 2018 #13

Transparency is apparently a one-way street. R B Garr Feb 2018 #19

Don't know the answer to that. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #21

I was surprised, too. He made such a point of not accepting PAC money, and then he turns pnwmom Feb 2018 #22

NRA or some other gun rights group unc70 Feb 2018 #37

Why haven't you corrected that it wasn't NRA money? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #67

Because bashing is more important than being accurate or truthful melman Feb 2018 #84

Well, it was from the gun lobby. Clinton got more than twice that: $26,713. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #74

HRC recieved over $1,000,000 from gun control advocates in 2016, lapucelle Feb 2018 #143

And double the amount of Sanders' from gun lobbyists. The OP's post was false. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #179

What's really relevant is how our elected representatives vote on gun issues. lapucelle Feb 2018 #181

MarketWatch is wrong? lapucelle Feb 2018 #183

Yes, Marketwatch gives the wrong impression... Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #187

Eight of the people on the MarketWatch list serve in the House lapucelle Feb 2018 #191

That particular list does include both Senators and Reps, but if you extend it to the top 25, sl8 Feb 2018 #192

It's stunning that BS got more special interest gun money than Senators lapucelle Feb 2018 #193

Because bashing is more important than being accurate or truthful ehrnst Feb 2018 #188

that 11K was the total going back to 1990, cumulative, also if you count the House Exotica Feb 2018 #137

Here are the numbers for the 2016 cycle only. lapucelle Feb 2018 #144

that is just a link to an article, i will show you exactly what I mean from their database Exotica Feb 2018 #153

"Do the maths"? lapucelle Feb 2018 #165

what? Exotica Feb 2018 #167

Ive already answered your question. lapucelle Feb 2018 #169

ok, thanks Exotica Feb 2018 #171

This should be a separate post to counter the misleading information here. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #177

I seem to recall him blasting Hillary for taking Wall Street money but when she EffieBlack Feb 2018 #108

Facts matter Tom Rinaldo Feb 2018 #168

Lol, Love these obvious diversions into speaking fees R B Garr Feb 2018 #172

"blasting Hillary for taking Wall Street money" Tom Rinaldo Feb 2018 #178

Hillary called them "artful smears" and I agree with her. Mueller's indictments R B Garr Feb 2018 #180

This whole thread is premised on "artful smears" of Sanders Tom Rinaldo Feb 2018 #185

Trump copied his attacks on her. That says it all. R B Garr Feb 2018 #186

Examining a voting record on guns of 25 years standing is not a smear. lapucelle Feb 2018 #195

A politician's voting record speaks for itself, whether or not there is money involved. lapucelle Feb 2018 #194

As I said in response to another poster Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #184

Those D's weren't running for President on a no-PAC campaign. nt pnwmom Feb 2018 #14

I hope he spent his $11k wisely leftstreet Feb 2018 #17

He didn't get a good grade, but he passed. lapucelle Feb 2018 #142

Really? In 2016? MineralMan Feb 2018 #7

Voted no on russian sanctions Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author AlexSFCA Feb 2018 #81

He has "evolved". NCTraveler Feb 2018 #8

But Gillibrand did not. Blue_true Feb 2018 #15

Solid. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #18

Was 'evolution'? LanternWaste Feb 2018 #45

Yes. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #48

In other candidates it's called "pivoting" ehrnst Feb 2018 #189

Thanks for the reminder. This was out there when there was question about his . . . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #11

This clinched it - Im voting for Hillary in the primary hueymahl Feb 2018 #16

Yeah...nothing in the news about guns recently. LexVegas Feb 2018 #20

Just another hit job hueymahl Feb 2018 #23

Yeah, nothin' wrong with taking a little NRA money. LexVegas Feb 2018 #24

whether you are pro Bernie or anti Bernie, you must admit it is incredibly stupid for him Exotica Feb 2018 #26

See Post 38 - if right, Hillary took twice as much hueymahl Feb 2018 #102

Shame on her too then (btw, I am not a Bernie basher) Exotica Feb 2018 #105

I also went and looked at Senators all the way back to 1990 Exotica Feb 2018 #113

Thanks - good info hueymahl Feb 2018 #118

So Sanders picked up 11k from "the gun lobby" in 26 years. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #128

If you count all of Congress, going back to 1990, he isn't even in the top 700 Exotica Feb 2018 #138

Details, details!! Let's bash the country's most popular politician some more!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #151

I am not bashing him, I am defending him against this (IMHO) false attack (numbers wise) Exotica Feb 2018 #155

Yes I know Ex, I wasn't referring to you at all... sorry for the confusion. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #158

Any politician's record on guns is an important detail. lapucelle Feb 2018 #164

++++great reminder about the 2016 Democratic Party R B Garr Feb 2018 #175

No more and no less than "any excuse to defend tin gods" LanternWaste Feb 2018 #47

Still voting Bernie in primaries - remember her emails unc70 Feb 2018 #25

Still voting for Hillary! Its not only men who lost R B Garr Feb 2018 #28

You seem to miss sarcasm unc70 Feb 2018 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author R B Garr Feb 2018 #33

New developments lead to discussion. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #36

Bernie has been taking steps to run again, so this is about 2020. pnwmom Feb 2018 #40

Except for Bernie! NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #50

Bernie needs to release his tax returns before any 2020 run announcement. oasis Feb 2018 #90

Amen. Way past time to produce those taxes. nt R B Garr Feb 2018 #104

This has nothing to do with Primaries. It's about who takes donations from the NRA. Lil Missy Feb 2018 #106

Open secrets shows no NRA donations to Sanders in 2016 cycle unc70 Feb 2018 #109

You are mistaken. His record has been off limits. It is R B Garr Feb 2018 #116

You need to read the other posts in this thread unc70 Feb 2018 #117

It is not about the primaries. nt R B Garr Feb 2018 #124

at least the W$ $ they all hollered about, didnt kill anyone. samnsara Feb 2018 #27

Follow the money. nycbos Feb 2018 #29

Bernie has a D rating with the NRA Motley13 Feb 2018 #34

A D is still a passing grade. Nothing but an F is acceptable lunamagica Feb 2018 #89

2016 Presidental candidate recipients: sl8 Feb 2018 #38

So, according to this link... 4nic8em Feb 2018 #43

Yes. Other posts in this thread have been discussing this. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #107

There's sure a big jump from the "biggies" like Trump down to the rest. dawg day Feb 2018 #46

ty Go Vols Feb 2018 #57

Well, that just took the air out of this thread. egduj Feb 2018 #63

Wow! Hillary took more than twice as much as Bernie? jalan48 Feb 2018 #68

What Was Bernies Position on Guns and Product Liability Suits? TomCADem Feb 2018 #39

I don't think it was the NRA, but some other gun rights group. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #41

Not NRA. Could be National Shooting Sports Foundation and/or Safari Club Int'l thesquanderer Feb 2018 #163

Wow. Interesting. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #42

I think the post is inaccurate JDC Feb 2018 #49

The chart from the Center for Responsive Politics lists members of the House AND the Senate. pnwmom Feb 2018 #54

Ok. But Cuellar took 12k and he is a Dem. JDC Feb 2018 #59

Peter Collins D-MN also took 12k p/ The Center JDC Feb 2018 #60

The article is wrong. It says Sanders is in the "top 25." He's not. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #72

Your post says he's in "top 25 of Congressional Recipients from the NRA." That's false. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #75

The NYPost article you cite was from 2016, why are you posting now? Bluepinky Feb 2018 #51

Because of the shooting in Florida, and the Russian connections, the NRA is a current issue. pnwmom Feb 2018 #53

So did Hillary take more? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #65

Yes. More than double the amount: $26,713. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #77

But it wasn't NRA money, was it? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #66

The $11K didn't come from the NRA. SixString Feb 2018 #76

The Marketwatch article you quote is wrong. You need to fix that in some way or delete it. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #73

"Vermont, has a strong hunting tradition. He accepted $11,129 in cash." left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #58

You will never give up fighting the 2016 primaries. former9thward Feb 2018 #61

I think they are going for the record. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #69

You would think they would be more angry at Obama as he was 10 times Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #79

Nice article. Shame it's probably written by the Russians. Decoy of Fenris Feb 2018 #62

Deceptive. egduj Feb 2018 #64

Of course melman Feb 2018 #83

Article also states that Chris Van Hollen took over $104,000. Is there a big rush to bullwinkle428 Feb 2018 #70

Opensecrets.org disagrees. CentralMass Feb 2018 #78

That's pretty funny. They want us to think that spending AGAINST Hillary Clinton in the primary pnwmom Feb 2018 #82

I think that they were pretty clear that the NRA was spending money to beat Hillary CentralMass Feb 2018 #98

What a bunch of doublespeak hueymahl Feb 2018 #103

Bernie left the Democratic party after he lost the primary. If he had stayed in the party, pnwmom Feb 2018 #110

I want some of what you are smoking hueymahl Feb 2018 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Feb 2018 #125

Spending FOR Trump does not equate to spending FOR Sanders... thesquanderer Feb 2018 #160

Whoa, when someone posted here this would be a bad week for Sanders lunamagica Feb 2018 #85

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #92

Or.. X_Digger Feb 2018 #93

First old footage. Then old questionable polls lunamagica Feb 2018 #95

Sander and his campaign received no money from the NRA. CentralMass Feb 2018 #99

By law no candidate receives money from the NRA. But, many organizations set up.... George II Feb 2018 #197

This is false melman Feb 2018 #87

This is why many of the Bernie Bros were Russian bots. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #88

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #94

That is really fucking low melman Feb 2018 #96

Taking money from the NRA is low samir.g Feb 2018 #97

I agree. nt jrthin Feb 2018 #100

So you post something untrue and refuse to change it when corrected melman Feb 2018 #111

Why did you fabricate that Bernie received money from the NRA? aikoaiko Feb 2018 #112

Apparently you didn't bother to read the article: pnwmom Feb 2018 #114

Apparently you didn't notice that they said gun rights groups, not the NRA aikoaiko Feb 2018 #140

He shouldn't take any money from any gun rights group...No Democrat should. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #152

Some groups are more moderate and support gun control even though they consider.... aikoaiko Feb 2018 #162

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #115

From the article: pnwmom Feb 2018 #120

The article is false and misleading and has been shown to be so CrawlingChaos Feb 2018 #121

Did you know the Russian troll factories target sites like DU with propaganda hit-pieces? Decoy of Fenris Feb 2018 #123

The article is correct. Politifact has noted the NRA has NOT regarded Sanders "as an anti-gunner" Julian Englis Feb 2018 #132

Crawling, I didn't see that THIS part was false. I read Hortensis Feb 2018 #176

The Center for Responsive Politics and Open Secrets don't have conflicting information melman Feb 2018 #122

That happens to this poster with their Bernie obsession all the time. phleshdef Feb 2018 #129

Interesting. Not saying it is good, or excusing hypocrisy, but... PatrickforO Feb 2018 #126

If one identifies with white male history he may be a good guy. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #131

I would say one thing Sen. Sanders did vote in 2005 to give gun manufacturer immunity Some Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #154

But I'm sure that Bernie's motives for that vote were very, very ehrnst Feb 2018 #190

I want every Dem who voted for that bill and Sen. Sanders to support Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #196

Is this Russian bots trying to stir up more slop. vsrazdem Feb 2018 #130

Is English your second language? fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #133

:) sheshe2 Feb 2018 #134

Hey sheshe! fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #135

Hey, flea. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #136

No, as a matter of fact my ancesters have been here since the 1600s vsrazdem Feb 2018 #139

That's cool. My ancestors were there to greet them. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #182

What you claim is just not true. DLevine Feb 2018 #146

Hillary was supported by the Brady foundation...she took money form anti-gun organizations. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #156

What you say is true. What the OP claimed is not true. nt DLevine Feb 2018 #166

I'm not going to hit the Alert Abuse button, but... thesquanderer Feb 2018 #157

BS is not as righteous as the BoBs want him to be liberal N proud Feb 2018 #159

I knew this when I voted for Sanders Devil Child Feb 2018 #174