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procon

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11. It also is an admission of guilt.

Reply to Atman (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:52 AM

Feb 2018

Under the Fifth Amendment, people are protected against self-incrimination, but in accepting a pardon and admitting to guilt, they are no longer under any legal jeopardy and can be compelled to testify about everything.

If Mueller shows that Trump issued pardons to avoid his own personal jeopardy in the Russia investigation, then that is a crime of obstruction of justice.

Also, Presidential pardons apply only to federal crimes so Mueller is tag teaming with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman just in case Trump starts handing out pardons.

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So if Manafort and Gates plead guilty, doesn't that make them eligible for pardon? [View all] Atman Feb 2018 OP

So far it appears if they do, the NY AG is ready to step in.. Historic NY Feb 2018 #1

Mueller is covering all the bases. Schneiderman is ready to step up if needed njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #10

this... Sancho Feb 2018 #12

If trump is going to pardon Manafort, he'll do it soon. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #2

Yea the pardons must be a comin' Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #3

I don't really care as long as he gets the information he needs to bring down tRump njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #4

Doesn't matter what they plead, Trump can pardon them Fiendish Thingy Feb 2018 #5

All indications are that Gates has flipped aka is cooperating with Mueller emulatorloo Feb 2018 #6

He can pardon if they plead guilty, or are found guilty, or even if they are not charged at all Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #7

Except Trump cant pardon them for state charges, only federal ones. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #8

hmm. mercuryblues Feb 2018 #9

I think at this point Manafort's life is in peril njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #13

It also is an admission of guilt. procon Feb 2018 #11

If Trump were inclined to pardon people marylandblue Feb 2018 #14