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thucythucy

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86. Who's "attacking California?"

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:10 AM

Feb 2018

The OP pointed out that certain Democrats are--for reasons I personally can't fathom--voting for a bill that will gut the enforcement provisions of the most important civil rights legislation ever passed to protect people with disabilities. The Democrats in question represent districts in New York and California. I pointed out that as liberal as those states are, there are areas within them that are quite conservative. Are you disputing that?

And so what if the thread is a week old? The bill is now before the Senate. Is there some kind of time limit on when we can protest the passage or potential passage of reactionary legislation?

The work you cite that's been done is BECAUSE of the ADA. If the ADA is gutted, you can bet that companies who have opposed taking part in this progress (Greyhound is a perfect example) will call a quick halt to any accommodations they don't feel they need to make.

I AM disabled, and this bill is a threat to what I and many others have worked for for the past three decades. Sorry if being "lectured" about this annoys you.

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Here is a list of Democrats opposing Americans with Disabilities Act [View all] NCDem777 Feb 2018 OP

You saying these Dems would want the Disabilities Act tossed in the dumpster,or some parts of it? Bengus81 Feb 2018 #1

Can you give context on this? Caliman73 Feb 2018 #2

I will let Tammy Duckworth give the context NCDem777 Feb 2018 #4

Thank you. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #10

It just exited committee and may be voted on in the next week NCDem777 Feb 2018 #12

Here's Bob Casey's full statement explaining why it's a bad bill.linked from propublica hedda_foil Feb 2018 #38

Source? Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #3

Thanks, Yonnie SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #5

A six month waiting period for civil rights. I'd call that inflammatory NCDem777 Feb 2018 #8

I understand your point. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #13

Your OP was misleading. Blue_true Feb 2018 #21

It's been law for 27 years NCDem777 Feb 2018 #22

What part of ... have had 27 years to make their services accessible to all... GeorgeGist Feb 2018 #40

What part of most small businesses are less than 2 years old didn't you understand? nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #41

Then they should have been aware fifthoffive Feb 2018 #91

I read the links later provided. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #9

The modification would all but kill it. It would be toothless. NCDem777 Feb 2018 #16

I have yet to form an opinion. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #23

It's not analogous to compare the Civil Rights Acts and the ADA mythology Feb 2018 #35

Here's what DREDF--a preeminent (and very progressive) thucythucy Feb 2018 #53

Have you looked at the other links provided-- thucythucy Feb 2018 #58

It's not as though businesses haven't had 27 years to get up to code NCDem777 Feb 2018 #6

"It's not as though businesses haven't had 27 years to get up to code" NCTraveler Feb 2018 #14

It's been law for 27 years NCDem777 Feb 2018 #17

You really don't see how flawed your comment is? NCTraveler Feb 2018 #27

Suppose, instead of disability access, we were talking fire codes. thucythucy Feb 2018 #56

I was just recently given ninety days to bring ourselves... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #70

Wow. Were you not aware of the code thucythucy Feb 2018 #74

EVERY business is at least 27 years old? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #34

Yes because small businesses have been on top of fixing violations of the ADA for the last 27 years. Autumn Feb 2018 #24

Most on that list are from New York or California. There are a lot R B Garr Feb 2018 #42

We have those who don't comply here and in places other than NY or CA. Gutting Autumn Feb 2018 #43

The posted list shows places in California and New York, R B Garr Feb 2018 #44

If they have been there a year or two they have had time to comply, I haven't seen any glee. YMMV nt Autumn Feb 2018 #45

Yes, as long as Democrats are primaried, it doesnt matter R B Garr Feb 2018 #46

Letting politicians know that they can't roll back Civil Rights is something to get behind Autumn Feb 2018 #47

More of the thread shows the OP to be misleading R B Garr Feb 2018 #48

I will defer to what Tammy Duckworth had to say about it instead of the opinions of Autumn Feb 2018 #50

I didnt see anything about primarying Democrats R B Garr Feb 2018 #51

Of course she said nothing about primarying Democrats, neither did I. One can discuss the Autumn Feb 2018 #54

Yes, that should be an awareness of a cost of doing R B Garr Feb 2018 #67

It fits into the category of gutting a Civil Rights Act, gutting the ADA harms actual people. Autumn Feb 2018 #68

New York and California are both very liberal states. R B Garr Feb 2018 #69

No, it shows that lots of people, even progressive Democrats, don't understand what the ADA is thucythucy Feb 2018 #57

The politicians targeted are from California and New York, R B Garr Feb 2018 #65

Upstate New York thucythucy Feb 2018 #75

I am very familiar, too, with the ADA R B Garr Feb 2018 #79

Who's "attacking California?" thucythucy Feb 2018 #86

Ive seen the ADA work done in my state for decades. R B Garr Feb 2018 #87

I posted links for you to look at. thucythucy Feb 2018 #89

I KNOW all about the ADA. I have seen the work done on R B Garr Feb 2018 #92

LOL, and it looks like you are the one rubbed the wrong R B Garr Feb 2018 #93

You're saying there's a direct link between the ADA thucythucy Feb 2018 #59

I doubt the spirit of the law is to bankrupt people R B Garr Feb 2018 #64

There are some purple districts thucythucy Feb 2018 #73

Putting notches on the belts of the Revolution R B Garr Feb 2018 #82

No one is "lecturing the state." thucythucy Feb 2018 #88

I KNOW people have worked hard on the ADA. R B Garr Feb 2018 #90

You're obviously not reading the OP thucythucy Feb 2018 #94

You are just talking to yourself at this point. R B Garr Feb 2018 #95

Still not getting it. thucythucy Feb 2018 #96

Same to you. How ludicrous and pathetic to R B Garr Feb 2018 #97

This statement is pretty weak gratuitous Feb 2018 #28

Thank you! thucythucy Feb 2018 #60

Inexcusable. Laffy Kat Feb 2018 #7

Clint Eastwood loyalsister Feb 2018 #66

Because of the ADAs interaction with a CA statute hardluck Feb 2018 #72

You aren't demanding purity. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #11

Thank you! You're correct... the post is deceptive and misleading. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #25

I call it like it is NCDem777 Feb 2018 #33

Here's what DREDF (Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund) thucythucy Feb 2018 #61

Can you provide more information? Blue_true Feb 2018 #15

They support HR 620 NCDem777 Feb 2018 #19

Do you recognize a couple of things? Blue_true Feb 2018 #29

And small businesses have help from the government NCDem777 Feb 2018 #32

not all...almost none get financial help from the Govt...they get info. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #36

Most landlords force the tenets to make and pay for the improvements. Blue_true Feb 2018 #37

What are you referring to? Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #18

I read this very carefully...this has been around since September. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #20

TRASHED. This is misleading. DinahMoeHum Feb 2018 #26

It is actually not misleading. It is lacking context and explanation but not misleading. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #39

Thank you for taking the time thucythucy Feb 2018 #63

Yes, it certainly looks like a bad bill. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #71

5 from California? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #30

I've worked in non ADA compliant buildings crazycatlady Feb 2018 #31

No.. there's a difference between "purity" Cha Feb 2018 #49

Here's the DREDF (Disability Rights and Education Defense Fund) take on this: thucythucy Feb 2018 #52

Thank you for posting this. thucythucy Feb 2018 #55

Here's some more detail on why this bill is a bad idea: thucythucy Feb 2018 #62

Jackie got an angry letter from me this weekend. Starry Messenger Feb 2018 #76

I would urge anyone living in one of those districts thucythucy Feb 2018 #77

2018 is not the year for that. wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #78

2018 is not the year Dems need to be betraying the disabled either NCDem777 Feb 2018 #80

Preach it! They *all* need primarying... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #81

Out of curiosity NCDem777 Feb 2018 #84

Many businesses think there is a grandfather clause but that's no longer true Kaleva Feb 2018 #83

Your list is wrong Exotica Feb 2018 #85

Thank you for the correction. thucythucy Feb 2018 #98

Please include, in your OP, the context. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #99