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diva77

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46. I do not know context of tweet. Perhaps "why the Clinton campaign didn't do something" refers to
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:16 PM
Feb 2018

HRC's staff -- who, despite being strongly urged by people such as John Bonifaz to conduct a recount of the 2016 election, did not choose to move forward with one.
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2016 United States presidential election recounts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_recounts
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Following Republican nominee Donald Trump's presumed electoral college victory in the United States presidential election of 2016, a group of computer scientists, cyber security experts, and election monitors raised concerns about the integrity of the election results. They urged the campaign staff of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who had conceded the campaign on November 9,[1] to petition for a recount in three key states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[2] When the Clinton campaign declined to file for recounts, Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein agreed to spearhead the recount effort on November 23, on the grounds that unspecified "anomalies" may have affected the election's outcome. The Clinton team subsequently pledged to support the recount efforts "in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides."[3][4][5] President-elect Trump and his supporters filed legal motions in all three states to prevent the recounts.[6] Two other states were the subject of recount bids that were separate from Stein's efforts in the Rust Belt states: American Delta Party/Reform Party presidential candidate Rocky De La Fuente filed for a partial recount in Nevada on November 30,[7] and three Florida citizens filed for a complete hand recount in their state on December 6.[8]
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Background

After the election, a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers including J. Alex Halderman, (director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society) and John Bonifaz, (founder of the National Voting Rights Institute) began studying the election results and found statistical anomalies. For example, Clinton's votes were 7% lower than expected in counties that used electronic voting machines to tally votes, as opposed to using paper ballots and optical scan voting systems;[18][19] in Wisconsin, there was a significant increase in the number of absentee ballots and Trump did far better than expected in counties that used only electronic voting; and there was a sizable increase in the number of ballots cast in Michigan that left the presidential field blank.[20]

The 2016 presidential election was also unprecedented in that, as The Guardian reports:

"The election had taken place against a backdrop of warnings from the US government that Russian hackers were “scanning and probing” the election systems of American states, and were behind the theft of emails from the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Eight days before the election, the White House had used an emergency hotline to warn Russia against further interference."[20]

The loose coalition of computer scientists and lawyers advocated for an election recount in three battleground states (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan)[21] where President-elect Trump had narrow victories of less than 1%.[22] Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes (0.2%), Pennsylvania by 49,543 (0.8%), and Wisconsin by 27,257 votes (0.7%). A shift of half of these from Trump to Clinton would mean Clinton would get enough electoral votes to win, and a shift in these states would constitute the smallest shift which would have this effect. In order to petition these states, a presidential candidate would need to file the recount request. Stein agreed to lead the effort after the group was unable to persuade the Clinton team to file.[20]
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Hey Bernie, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #1
Oh Boy, Bernie stuck his foot in his mouth. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #2
He was serious? I thought he was lampooning Trump? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #80
If Bernie becomes irrelevant, we need someone to fill his void. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
"This should finish it off for BS." NCTraveler Feb 2018 #4
Yeah, his comments might just poison more Democratic leaning voters. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #9
Doesn't surprise me at all. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #14
yep Exotica Feb 2018 #56
That's definitely a problem... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #17
Does he think that ONLY his "base" can hear his words? NurseJackie Feb 2018 #13
I know you disagree and I appreciate your position. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #16
Untitled Reply NurseJackie Feb 2018 #20
Bernie has always been divisive. We should never jrthin Feb 2018 #28
Everything you said is correct. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #31
I've had a good DU role model...you. jrthin Feb 2018 #35
### NurseJackie Feb 2018 #37
Another fan of Phryne Fisher, I see Hekate Feb 2018 #58
Yes, this is just his latest salvo at Cha Feb 2018 #98
But Wouldn't THat Be If He Ran As A Dem Again? Me. Feb 2018 #52
Yes to your subject line. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #69
I Think BS Will Be Called On Him If He Tries That Again Me. Feb 2018 #70
He has spent more time at events... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #74
He is making money off his presidential gig. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #76
Yes, he is. Lots. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2018 #79
Yes. I wish he would go away. Tipperary Feb 2018 #83
I See Him On What Seems Like Every Sunday Show Me. Feb 2018 #77
In my opinion Tavarious Jackson Feb 2018 #78
He is toast! GWC58 Feb 2018 #103
Things that make you go Hmmmmm Generic Brad Feb 2018 #5
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DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Feb 2018 #8
He's fucking toast. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #10
burnt like, even Exotica Feb 2018 #57
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I second this emotion Exotica Feb 2018 #59
OMG! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #84
"I ate my own pudding and a candy bar, why didn't my neighbor stop me?" Says the diabetic. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #12
Wow, Truly epic. R B Garr Feb 2018 #15
I would like proof, is there a link to Sanders saying this? thx in advance uponit7771 Feb 2018 #18
It was on VPR. The program will be re-run tonight at 7pm. I heard the clip but seaglass Feb 2018 #19
Areatha Franklins response uponit7771 Feb 2018 #21
The link was in the tweet, here you go... PunkinPi Feb 2018 #23
WTF, Bernie? mcar Feb 2018 #22
I'm over him. LexVegas Feb 2018 #24
Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #87
He's done. nt Maven Feb 2018 #25
As a bernie supporter...if this is accurate poboy2 Feb 2018 #26
This isn't really accurate, its taken out of context. Kentonio Feb 2018 #100
... betsuni Feb 2018 #104
I don't think he is that popular...my kids were wildly enthusiastic but none would vote for him in Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #107
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Feb 2018 #27
Not me.. nini Feb 2018 #43
I'm not. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #88
I'm shocked, just shocked he would say that! obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #29
Sure you are. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #33
hahaha obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #36
Can't anyone make it stop? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2018 #30
Ugh. Nonhlanhla Feb 2018 #32
Jesus Fucking Christ. LexVegas Feb 2018 #34
Is that a shout out to BS? DURHAM D Feb 2018 #38
LOL NurseJackie Feb 2018 #85
What a stupid response. What could he be thinking? nolabear Feb 2018 #39
This guy..... spicysista Feb 2018 #40
Given that he is not a Democrat he has no reason to sit down. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #44
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #45
It's not "protected status" as much as it is a rule to stop re-fighting the primaries... Hekate Feb 2018 #62
Who's re-fighting the primaries? spicysista Feb 2018 #65
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #102
Okay Bernie thats just fucking stupid and you know it. phleshdef Feb 2018 #41
I used to respect him but what has happened to him? 4now Feb 2018 #42
I do not know context of tweet. Perhaps "why the Clinton campaign didn't do something" refers to diva77 Feb 2018 #46
Seriously...you jumped in this thread to blame Hillary??? nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #47
I posted some factual information regarding what occurred with the 2016 election recount. diva77 Feb 2018 #48
Why don't you just listen to the interview. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #49
Fair enough. I didn't realize there was a link to an interview. I'll get back to this thread later diva77 Feb 2018 #50
No you didn't...what you have is an opinion. There is no fact regarding recounts...Was it posted to Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #61
No, it doesn't. He's just trying to deflect from the fact that HE had the power pnwmom Feb 2018 #66
Excellent points. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #90
Why this? Why now? Why couldn't he just SHUT UP? dalton99a Feb 2018 #51
Now That's The Question Of THe Day Me. Feb 2018 #54
Answer below... Cha Feb 2018 #67
Because he wants to fucking change the subject.. Cha Feb 2018 #63
Bingo Hekate Feb 2018 #64
Nail On The Head Me. Feb 2018 #68
Perfect! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #89
Mahalo, Jackie! Cha Feb 2018 #91
Nice to be around friends! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #93
Ye-ah you are! Cha Feb 2018 #94
This is a new low in victim-blaming. Hillary tried to tell us. What else was she supposed to do? Hekate Feb 2018 #53
I know - I felt as if Hillary was running against everybody in the general. LisaM Feb 2018 #55
and she still got 3 million (or more) votes more than Trump did!!! Exotica Feb 2018 #60
There it is. JNelson6563 Feb 2018 #106
You and me both EffieBlack Feb 2018 #92
One question. Will he get putin support in 2020? Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #71
Probably depends on Tad Devine. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #73
Not surprised. ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #72
White male privlage Tavarious Jackson Feb 2018 #75
So many assumptions... Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #82
SMDH Quayblue Feb 2018 #86
The JPR folks still don't believe there was Russian collusion so I wonder how they are taking stevenleser Feb 2018 #95
Yeah, real smooth move by sanders.. to Cha Feb 2018 #97
Hillary did do something.. the real Question is Cha Feb 2018 #96
Uh huh. That was a nice try... OnyxSharpie Feb 2018 #99
Bingo Kentonio Feb 2018 #101
Sanders is a JPR type ? stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #105
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